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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 7, 2014 6:04pm
This would only help half the teams though. Maybe it could be a combination of both. I like the higher seed home idea anyway.se-alum;1683788 wrote:Another option would be to have the higher seeds play at home.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Dec 7, 2014 6:11pm
Exactly. I thought OSU should be 4, but TCU is justifiably pissed at the same time. They won by 52 and got dropped 3 spots. The committee basically screwed themselves by misranking TCU last week (and earlier, arguably), so when they had to make up for it, it was a load of horseshit in terms of TCU.FatHobbit;1683799 wrote:Can you imagine the outrage if OSU was 3rd, won their final game and then got left out? I'm not saying we didn't deserve to be in, but I understand why the Big 12 fans are pissed.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 7, 2014 7:00pm
told you all weeks ago that the Big 12 would get fucked and rightfully so.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Dec 7, 2014 7:44pm
The lesson learned is that winning 59-0 trumps winning say 31 to 14. Fuck sportsmanship is the committee's cry.
Go Bucks. Time to not only beat Alabama, but to pound lumps all over them.
Go Bucks. Time to not only beat Alabama, but to pound lumps all over them.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 7, 2014 10:50pm
Not really worried about Bama, they suck. I'm ridiculously happy we get the opportunity to beat the shit out of the overrated conference champion.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 7, 2014 10:58pm
Heartburn sucks too
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Dec 7, 2014 11:37pm
8 teams is too much and would ruin the seasonAzubuike24;1683783 wrote:Ohio State's win over 9-3 Cincinnati however, probably gave them the best OOC win over the other contenders. TCU's big win was...Minnesota, a Big ten team that OSU also beat. That's what hurt the Big 12 (and the lack of a title game). Their 2 contenders didn't play anyone.
Eventually, I'd like to see an 8-team playoff and stop there. This will almost ensure that you can win your league and get in, and just in-case you don't, who you play OOC will matter. This year, imagine if it was 8 teams? We would have a TON of 2-loss teams with arguments (had some games gone differently yesterday).
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 8, 2014 12:39am
I disagree. They could put the power 5 champs in, and 3 at large teams. I do believe one of the big 12 teams this year deserved a shot. And they could play those games in December since the title game is already being played in the middle of January.Classyposter58;1683917 wrote:8 teams is too much and would ruin the season
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Dec 8, 2014 1:01am
No this is college football. I'm sorry but Mississippi State and Michigan State do not deserve to play for a national title, yet your format would include themFatHobbit;1683927 wrote:I disagree. They could put the power 5 champs in, and 3 at large teams. I do believe one of the big 12 teams this year deserved a shot. And they could play those games in December since the title game is already being played in the middle of January.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Dec 8, 2014 3:00am
Smaller division schools put 16 teams in. Basketball has 65 teams or so.Classyposter58;1683930 wrote:No this is college football. I'm sorry but Mississippi State and Michigan State do not deserve to play for a national title, yet your format would include them
believer
Posts: 8,153
Dec 8, 2014 6:17am
Disagree. It HAS to happen.Classyposter58;1683917 wrote:8 teams is too much and would ruin the season
The Power 5 conference champs get auto-bids. 3 at-large bids with one of those going to an independent like the Domers as long as that team is ranked #8 or higher. One at-large goes to the highest ranked Group of 5 mid-major team as long as that team is ranked #15 or higher. The balance of the at-large bids are selected by the committee in the same manner as they just chose this year's Top 4. Then seed the 8 accordingly.
It would NOT ruin the season.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Dec 8, 2014 8:16am
If you are going to move to 8 teams in the future you should take the top 8 teams. The idea of taking a #15 mid major is completely idiotic.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Dec 8, 2014 8:27am
This. I'm not sure how I feel about 8 teams. I was a proponent of 8, but I'm just not sure. Even if OSU were sitting in the 5th spot (or even 7th), I think I'd rather have 6 than 8. I don't think anyone past Baylor or TCU deserved a shot at this thing. You reward 1 and 2 with a bye.rrfan;1683950 wrote:If you are going to move to 8 teams in the future you should take the top 8 teams. The idea of taking a #15 mid major is completely idiotic.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 8, 2014 8:36am
The only teams that should be guaranteed a spot are he champions of the 5 major conferences. The other 3 teams should be the top 3 teams in the country, if not a major conference champ.
So yes, that means ND, all of the other independents, and the mid majors are all treated the same. No more special treatment for teams who refuse to get with the times.
So yes, that means ND, all of the other independents, and the mid majors are all treated the same. No more special treatment for teams who refuse to get with the times.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 8, 2014 8:39am
So this year you would have the 5 champs: Bama, FSU, Oregon, OSU, Baylor.
Next up would be TCU, Miss. St., and Sparty.
If you take the next 3 ranked teams. Although I don't think there should be rankings until after the final week of the season, aka yesterday.
Give the top 4 teams home games and then have the semis and champ at neutral fields.
Also, allow the schools to pay for family travel to the games(neutral fields).
Next up would be TCU, Miss. St., and Sparty.
If you take the next 3 ranked teams. Although I don't think there should be rankings until after the final week of the season, aka yesterday.
Give the top 4 teams home games and then have the semis and champ at neutral fields.
Also, allow the schools to pay for family travel to the games(neutral fields).
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 8, 2014 8:51am
Out of 128 schools that play FBS, I think they top 8 deserve a shot.Classyposter58;1683930 wrote:No this is college football. I'm sorry but Mississippi State and Michigan State do not deserve to play for a national title, yet your format would include them
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 8, 2014 8:53am
How does it ruin the regular season? Don't you have to win games to win your conference? Or be an at-large?Classyposter58;1683917 wrote:8 teams is too much and would ruin the season
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 8, 2014 8:57am
6ish% of schools is a very small number.WebFire;1683964 wrote:Out of 128 schools that play FBS, I think they top 8 deserve a shot.
Double that get a shot at the basketball title.
8 is a very acceptable number.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Dec 8, 2014 9:38am
This.wildcats20;1683959 wrote:So this year you would have the 5 champs: Bama, FSU, Oregon, OSU, Baylor.
Next up would be TCU, Miss. St., and Sparty.
If you take the next 3 ranked teams. Although I don't think there should be rankings until after the final week of the season, aka yesterday.
Give the top 4 teams home games and then have the semis and champ at neutral fields.
Also, allow the schools to pay for family travel to the games(neutral fields).
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Dec 8, 2014 10:38am
Because you just gave teams two mulligans to play for a title. Maybe I'm old school growing up in the bowl era but only great regular seasons deserve national titles, and all 4 teams in this season had one. Mississippi State and Michigan State do not deserve to play for a championship and this was IMO a strong year for college football. With 8 you are going to see 3-4 SEC teams in every yearWebFire;1683965 wrote:How does it ruin the regular season? Don't you have to win games to win your conference? Or be an at-large?
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Dec 8, 2014 10:58am
Yea your old school era would have 2 undefeated schools playing against whoever had a conference tie-in and even the modern BCS occasionally has 2 loss teams competing for a championship.
Your old school logic promotes scheduling non conference opponents like Rice, Lamar, and Samford because colleges try to appease old school big wigs who only care about records over who you actually play.
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Your old school logic promotes scheduling non conference opponents like Rice, Lamar, and Samford because colleges try to appease old school big wigs who only care about records over who you actually play.
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Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Dec 8, 2014 11:08am
Here's the last few years if we had a playoff...
2013: #1 Florida State vs #4 Michigan State, #2 Auburn vs #3 Alabama
2012: #1 Notre Dame vs #4 Oregon, #2 Alabama vs #3 Florida
2011: #1 LSU vs #4 Stanford, #2 Alabama vs #3 Oklahoma State
2010: #1 Auburn vs #4 Stanford, #2 Oregon vs #3 TCU
2009: #1 Alabama vs #4 TCU, #2 Texas vs #3 Cincinnati
2008: #1 Oklahoma vs #4 Alabama, #2 Florida vs #3 Texas
2007: #1 Ohio State vs #4 Oklahoma, #2 LSU vs #3 Virginia Tech
2013: #1 Florida State vs #4 Michigan State, #2 Auburn vs #3 Alabama
2012: #1 Notre Dame vs #4 Oregon, #2 Alabama vs #3 Florida
2011: #1 LSU vs #4 Stanford, #2 Alabama vs #3 Oklahoma State
2010: #1 Auburn vs #4 Stanford, #2 Oregon vs #3 TCU
2009: #1 Alabama vs #4 TCU, #2 Texas vs #3 Cincinnati
2008: #1 Oklahoma vs #4 Alabama, #2 Florida vs #3 Texas
2007: #1 Ohio State vs #4 Oklahoma, #2 LSU vs #3 Virginia Tech
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Dec 8, 2014 11:11am
You can't really speculate who the committee would have put in. They aren't tied to these BCS/ap rankings
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Dec 8, 2014 12:51pm
Did they get it right?
I believe so.
Just think how messed up the BCS system was though.....if they used it Oregon, as some say is the best, wouldnt even be in.
I would be pissed if I was TCU. 3rd going into the last week. Drilled their opponant and drops. yeah, it was just ISU but each team has some dogs on their schedule
I believe so.
Just think how messed up the BCS system was though.....if they used it Oregon, as some say is the best, wouldnt even be in.
I would be pissed if I was TCU. 3rd going into the last week. Drilled their opponant and drops. yeah, it was just ISU but each team has some dogs on their schedule
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 8, 2014 1:00pm
IMO, the only people who should be confused or mad about that are the people who failed to comprehend that the committee is actually evaluating on a blank slate each week.thavoice;1684062 wrote:
I would be pissed if I was TCU. 3rd going into the last week. Drilled their opponant and drops. yeah, it was just ISU but each team has some dogs on their schedule
Not talking about you, rather the talking heads yesterday who showed how unintelligent they really are.