se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 7, 2014 3:14pm
I don't see it as embarrassing. New QB and offensive line going against a good defense. It would be embarrassing if the two teams played today and VT won.pmoney25;1683608 wrote:Let's be honest VT was terrible this year. OSU rebounded well and played great when it mattered but nothing stops that from being an embarrassing loss.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 7, 2014 3:22pm
VT is terrible. I'm not sure how someone could possibly say otherwise.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 7, 2014 3:24pm
It's sarcasm folks
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 7, 2014 3:25pm
Beating FCS schools shouldn't count towards that.wildcats20;1683599 wrote:Going to a bowl game.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 7, 2014 3:26pm
This. I think the committee and most people take this in consideration. JT playing his second game in over two years, inexperienced oline, young game. After that, OSU did what most didn't expect and did what was needed to put them where they are now. And, playing as well as anyone right now.se-alum;1683619 wrote:I don't see it as embarrassing. New QB and offensive line going against a good defense. It would be embarrassing if the two teams played today and VT won.
BTW...VT isn't very good. But they are not horrible either.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 7, 2014 3:28pm
They lost to 3-8 Wake Forest 6-3. If that's not horrible, I don't know what is. :laugh:
But anyway, moot point. Anyone heading south for the game? I had a friend lock in tickets weeks ago. I told him he was crazy and chances we make it were slim. Glad to be wrong!
But anyway, moot point. Anyone heading south for the game? I had a friend lock in tickets weeks ago. I told him he was crazy and chances we make it were slim. Glad to be wrong!
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 7, 2014 3:42pm
centralbucksfan;1683634 wrote:But they are not horrible either.
CBF what the hell are you talking about. Auto is 100% rightAutomatik;1683638 wrote:They lost to 3-8 Wake Forest 6-3. If that's not horrible, I don't know what is. :laugh:
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 7, 2014 3:48pm
Lol cbf
He will defend anything osu no matter fucking what
He will defend anything osu no matter fucking what
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 7, 2014 4:27pm
Go look at their scores. They were in every game but one. Yes, bad loss. So if one games makes them horrible, then I guess OSU should be shit? Right?lhslep134;1683656 wrote:CBF what the hell are you talking about. Auto is 100% right
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 7, 2014 4:29pm
I can't agree entirely. It depends so much on what the teams around you in the rankings do.se-alum;1683605 wrote:That wasn't what I meant. I meant that OSU lost to a average/below average VT team, so losing to a good Power 5 team, won't matter a whole lot in the grand scheme of a playoff resume. Basically there is no downside now in scheduling at least one good OOC game.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 7, 2014 4:31pm
lol s&l. Uh huh...sure.SportsAndLady;1683632 wrote:It's sarcasm folks
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 7, 2014 4:32pm
Yeah, I firmly believe va tech is a good team and most osu fans defend that notion.centralbucksfan;1683750 wrote:lol s&l. Uh huh...sure.
Tard
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 7, 2014 4:33pm
I don't think they are horrible as some people think; but they are in no way, shape, or form an above average team.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 7, 2014 4:36pm
SportsAndLady;1683757 wrote:Yeah, I firmly believe va tech is a good team and most osu fans defend that notion.
Tard
Tard, real nice. You illiterate twat, please tell me where I said VT was a good team? Now go away. You are an annoying little nat.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 7, 2014 4:38pm
Keep it upcentralbucksfan;1683764 wrote:Tard, real nice. You illiterate twat, please tell me where I said VT was a good team? Now go away. You are an annoying little nat.
Everyone loves when you post
(Let's see if you can catch that sarcasm)
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 7, 2014 4:45pm
VT in fact, IS HORRIBLE. End of that discussion.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 7, 2014 4:48pm
Not according to cbfAutomatik;1683773 wrote:VT in fact, IS HORRIBLE. End of that discussion.
They aren't good, but they aren't horrible!!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 7, 2014 4:52pm
Well yea, I'm just saying that if you're great at the end of the season, that loss isn't going to matter.WebFire;1683747 wrote:I can't agree entirely. It depends so much on what the teams around you in the rankings do.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 7, 2014 4:57pm
Ohio State's win over 9-3 Cincinnati however, probably gave them the best OOC win over the other contenders. TCU's big win was...Minnesota, a Big ten team that OSU also beat. That's what hurt the Big 12 (and the lack of a title game). Their 2 contenders didn't play anyone.
Eventually, I'd like to see an 8-team playoff and stop there. This will almost ensure that you can win your league and get in, and just in-case you don't, who you play OOC will matter. This year, imagine if it was 8 teams? We would have a TON of 2-loss teams with arguments (had some games gone differently yesterday).
Eventually, I'd like to see an 8-team playoff and stop there. This will almost ensure that you can win your league and get in, and just in-case you don't, who you play OOC will matter. This year, imagine if it was 8 teams? We would have a TON of 2-loss teams with arguments (had some games gone differently yesterday).
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 7, 2014 5:02pm
Perhaps, but lots of variables is all I mean. You might get away with a VTech loss one season, but not the next.se-alum;1683778 wrote:Well yea, I'm just saying that if you're great at the end of the season, that loss isn't going to matter.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 7, 2014 5:04pm
I can only see an 8 team playoff if the NCAA starts allowing schools/conferences to pay travel expenses for the families of players. Meyer talked about it today. These families now have to pay to travel to the B1G Championship games, then 1 possibly 2 more bowl games. Another option would be to have the higher seeds play at home.Azubuike24;1683783 wrote:Ohio State's win over 9-3 Cincinnati however, probably gave them the best OOC win over the other contenders. TCU's big win was...Minnesota, a Big ten team that OSU also beat. That's what hurt the Big 12 (and the lack of a title game). Their 2 contenders didn't play anyone.
Eventually, I'd like to see an 8-team playoff and stop there. This will almost ensure that you can win your league and get in, and just in-case you don't, who you play OOC will matter. This year, imagine if it was 8 teams? We would have a TON of 2-loss teams with arguments (had some games gone differently yesterday).
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Dec 7, 2014 5:24pm
TCU 42nd, OSU 52nd.Fly4Fun;1683479 wrote:
They were on record saying winning a championship game will factor in. Not only that but OSU had a tougher SoS, and more impressive scoring margin. .
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
TCU 10th, OSU 26th
http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other
OSU 45th, TCU 53rd in SOS
TCU 4th, OSU 6th in SOR (Strength of record - Reflects chance that an average Top 25 team would have team's record or better, given the schedule)
http://espn.go.com/college-football/playoffPicture
TCU OFF - 46.8 DEF - 20.3 Margin = +26.5Fly4Fun;1683479 wrote:
Not only that but OSU had a tougher SoS, and more impressive scoring margin.
OSU OFF - 45.2 DEF - 21.2 Margin = +24.0
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Dec 7, 2014 5:29pm
Can you imagine the outrage if OSU was 3rd, won their final game and then got left out? I'm not saying we didn't deserve to be in, but I understand why the Big 12 fans are pissed.Automatik;1683490 wrote:Big 12 butthurt is strong right now. I fucking love it.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 7, 2014 5:31pm
I'd be totally fine with the first round of games being at the home of the top 4 seeds. It's no different than today.
First 8...home/road games.
Final 4...bowl games as designed now.
The problem with the home games and going from 4 to 8 teams is...not as much money is made on that switch. The NCAA would much rather see an "event" at a neutral venue like they have the title game this year.
First 8...home/road games.
Final 4...bowl games as designed now.
The problem with the home games and going from 4 to 8 teams is...not as much money is made on that switch. The NCAA would much rather see an "event" at a neutral venue like they have the title game this year.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 7, 2014 6:03pm
Very good point.FatHobbit;1683799 wrote:Can you imagine the outrage if OSU was 3rd, won their final game and then got left out? I'm not saying we didn't deserve to be in, but I understand why the Big 12 fans are pissed.