centralbucksfan;1682052 wrote:Its called the "eye test". Thats why. Disagree if you want. Thats fine. That common opponent vs OSU, was JT 2nd game he had played in, in over 2yrs. Most people realize that. Since that game, OSU is light years better. And yes, Jones is the trump card. But I feel he will surprise many this weekend. I also feel the system OSU has going, with the play makers they have, will be enough. IMO, defense is going to make or break this game.

DeyDurkie5;1681885 wrote:You've never been wrong before

wildcats20;1682056 wrote:Common opponent is Minnesota, not Va Tech

rydawg5;1682061 wrote:You can't compare common opponents other than both won.
Terrible terrible logic.

For example: TCU beat Kansas by 4.

Baylor beat Kansas by 46

TCU beat Oklahoma by 4

Baylor beat ok by 34

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rydawg5;1682061 wrote:You can't compare common opponents other than both won.
Terrible terrible logic.

For example: TCU beat Kansas by 4.

Baylor beat Kansas by 46

TCU beat Oklahoma by 4

Baylor beat ok by 34

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This common opponent thing is stupid other than outcome.





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thavoice;1682659 wrote:How messed up will it be if both win out and TCU finishes ahead of Baylor?

lhslep134;1682662 wrote:I guess you could say that the committee would be sending the message of "schedule someone other than cupcakes"

thavoice;1682665 wrote:I meant how could you take two one loss teams in the same conference, both losing fairly early, and somehow the team that won the head to head got the short end of the stick?

lhslep134;1682662 wrote:I guess you could say that the committee would be sending the message of "schedule someone other than cupcakes"

wildcats20;1682674 wrote:And pretty sure that Briles has even publicly said that he won't change his way of scheduling.

If Baylor gets left out, they have no one to blame but themselves. Their best OOC game was Buffalo, who is a middle of the pack MAC school.

thavoice;1682665 wrote:I meant how could you take two one loss teams in the same conference, both losing fairly early, and somehow the team that won the head to head got the short end of the stick?

wildcats20;1682673 wrote:Because the best team doesn't always win?

Or are you in CC's boat of the team that wins is always the best team??

lhslep134;1682676 wrote:By factoring in everything of relevance. Their job is to find the 4 best teams. That means there's more to the conversation than who won on October 11 in Waco.

thavoice;1682678 wrote:No, but if you both finish with the same record (1 loss), played NINE of the same opponants, and there is a head to head matcup between the two, how can you NOT choose the team who won the head to head"?

wildcats20;1682681 wrote:Because they feel TCU is a better team?

I really don't get why this is so hard. In the committee's eyes, TCU is the better team. And that is all that matters to them.

thavoice;1682682 wrote:Just makes no fucking sense.
and if your favorite college team was in this situation you would be going nutso about it.

thavoice;1682679 wrote:Again.
same record. Faced 9 of the same opponents. Head to head matchup. That winner needs to be ahead.

Heretic;1682684 wrote:Definitely. But unless my favorite team was in the Big 12, there'd be no way this situation would be possible. They don't have a conference championship game. Every other conference of note does, where things would eventually get settled in early December. Big 12 essentially put themselves in the old-school AP Poll land, where they are 100% dependent on the whims of decision-makers.

lhslep134;1682686 wrote:Again. Baylor didn't play anyone outside of their conference, TCU did. Again. All of these things matter. Again. Baylor's loss is worse than TCU's loss. Again. Stop typing like this.

thavoice;1682690 wrote:Very true. Their loss of teams took away the need for the conference champion.
Lets go back pre-big ten championship game days. If Michigan and OSU both finished 10-1 and were both in line for that 2 spot in the NC game...whom do you think would/should get the slot? The team who won the head to head even if teh voters thought the other team was better. That is how we settle disputes in sports between two teams. Head to head. WHen it comes down two teams, both possibly deserving of a final 4 spot, and both played nine of the same opponants..you have to go with the head to head. That is the way to do it.

Heretic;1682695 wrote:Well, one of the differences there is that OSU-Michigan is always the last week of the season, so it's the definitive guideline. In any sport, things just change so much from beginning to end that a narrow home win earlier in the season just doesn't hold the same power.

As another example, one of the things that annoyed me the most pre-Barrett-injury about OSU talk was how everyone focused on how the Bucks had the worst loss of any playoff contender. Because they lost to a VTech team with a freshman quarterback in his second start with a young OL where most of them were making their second starts. As the season progressed, it was clear OSU was in no way the same team that looked like clowns in September, but that loss was still broadcast as a major flaw in their resume.