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ptown_trojans_1

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Nov 26, 2014 2:47pm

Azubuike24;1678851 wrote:Probably, because they are still either 1 or 2 in the polls and #2 in the computer polls. They would probably be #2 behind Bama in the BCS standings.

Wouldn't that be a fun discussion if we were still in the BCS era?
Would it be Oregon or Bama in the number 2 spot?

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0311sdp

Posts: 580

Nov 26, 2014 2:48pm

KnightRyder;1678784 wrote:the last place team in the ACC coastal put a whoopin on the first place team in the Big Ten. apparently the B1G is worse.

By that logic Indiana a winless team in the BIG would win the SEC East. after beating SEC East leader Missouri.

wildcats20

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Nov 26, 2014 2:59pm

thavoice;1678846 wrote:I wonder, if this was strictly BCS rankings...would FSU be in the top two?

ptown_trojans_1;1678852 wrote:Wouldn't that be a fun discussion if we were still in the BCS era?
Would it be Oregon or Bama in the number 2 spot?

CFB Playoff Rankings vs Probable BCS Rankings

1 ALABAMA ALABAMA
2 FLORIDA STATE OREGON
3 OREGON FLORIDA STATE
4 MISSISSIPPI STATE MISSISSIPPI STATE
5 TCU TCU
6 BAYLOR OHIO STATE
7 OHIO STATE BAYLOR
8 OLE MISS OLE MISS
9 GEORGIA UCLA
10 UCLA GEORGIA
11 MICHIGAN STATE MICHIGAN STATE
12 KANSAS STATE KANSAS STATE
13 ARIZONA STATE ARIZONA STATE
14 AUBURN AUBURN
15 ARIZONA ARIZONA
16 WISCONSIN WISCONSIN
17 GEORGIA TECH UTAH
18 MISSOURI GEORGIA TECH
19 MARSHALL USC
20 NEBRASKA MISSOURI
21 UTAH OKLAHOMA
22 OKLAHOMA CLEMSON
23 COLORADO STATE NEBRASKA
24 USC LOUISVILLE
25DUKE MINNESOTA

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Nov 26, 2014 3:00pm

I have no idea how that looks on the web, it looks like trash on tapatalk. I'll look at it later.

But basically the team on the left is what the BCS would presumably look like and the team on the right is the playoff

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Nov 26, 2014 3:04pm

Also it was as of last week's rankings. I can't find it with last night's.

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Nov 26, 2014 3:07pm

http://fansided.com/2014/11/24/college-football-rankings-top-25-look-bcs-still/

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Nov 26, 2014 3:40pm

wildcats20;1678856 wrote:CFB Playoff Rankings vs Probable BCS Rankings

1 ALABAMA ALABAMA
2 FLORIDA STATE OREGON
3 OREGON FLORIDA STATE
4 MISSISSIPPI STATE MISSISSIPPI STATE
5 TCU TCU
6 BAYLOR OHIO STATE
7 OHIO STATE BAYLOR
8 OLE MISS OLE MISS
9 GEORGIA UCLA
10 UCLA GEORGIA
11 MICHIGAN STATE MICHIGAN STATE
12 KANSAS STATE KANSAS STATE
13 ARIZONA STATE ARIZONA STATE
14 AUBURN AUBURN
15 ARIZONA ARIZONA
16 WISCONSIN WISCONSIN
17 GEORGIA TECH UTAH
18 MISSOURI GEORGIA TECH
19 MARSHALL USC
20 NEBRASKA MISSOURI
21 UTAH OKLAHOMA
22 OKLAHOMA CLEMSON
23 COLORADO STATE NEBRASKA
24 USC LOUISVILLE
25DUKE MINNESOTA

Confused on what this is? From last week?

Marshall never 19th in playoff rankings

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Nov 26, 2014 3:41pm

wildcats20;1678857 wrote:I have no idea how that looks on the web, it looks like trash on tapatalk. I'll look at it later.

But basically the team on the left is what the BCS would presumably look like and the team on the right is the playoff

Thanks

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Nov 26, 2014 3:45pm

KnightRyder;1678784 wrote:the last place team in the ACC coastal put a whoopin on the first place team in the Big Ten. apparently the B1G is worse.

Akron 21
@ Pitt 10

Pitt 30
@ Boston College 20

Boston College 37
USC 31

USC 28
@ Arizona 26

Arizona 31
@ Oregon 24

Akron would dominate Oregon obviously.

Also.....

Marshall 48
@ Akron 17 (Akron's largest deficit loss of the season)

So.....,

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thavoice

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Nov 26, 2014 4:37pm

Herbie was talking this morning about the information that he was being fed by the competition committee and such about going forward....that it will be almost impossible for a Miss St to be in the final 4 if it doesnt get into the SEC championship game. They said to expect alot of movement before the very last standings as that is when they will take in account those issues, and also the TCU/Baylor issue. If the overall resume is close, and at the end of the season it should be with Baylor and TCU, then it will go head to head which gives it to baylor over tcu

Ironman92

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Nov 26, 2014 4:52pm

thavoice;1678882 wrote:Herbie was talking this morning about the information that he was being fed by the competition committee and such about going forward....that it will be almost impossible for a Miss St to be in the final 4 if it doesnt get into the SEC championship game. They said to expect alot of movement before the very last standings as that is when they will take in account those issues, and also the TCU/Baylor issue. If the overall resume is close, and at the end of the season it should be with Baylor and TCU, then it will go head to head which gives it to baylor over tcu

So they haven't taken everything into account to date?

Ironman92

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Nov 26, 2014 4:56pm

What if Auburn knocked off Bama in OT? Would Bama really drop to 8th?

Ironman92

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Nov 27, 2014 10:48am

Why is Boise St above Colorado State? Yes, they defeated them at BSU 37-24 and Boise's extra loss was at Ole Miss but that 35-13 loss is looking worse and worse as Ole Miss is a loss vs Miss St from being ranked below both Boise and CSU.

Boise lost handily 28-14 to Air Force and has zero wins vs any power 5 conference teams. CSU has defeated 2 power conference schools and both on the road (Boston College, Colorado)...also CSU has defeated some of the same MW conference teams just like Boise St has.

I just don't believe BSU is being penalized at all for a 35-13 loss at Ole Miss, it just can't be thrown out (had it been a tight 35-31 loss....AND Ole Miss beats MSU), then I could dismiss it without hurting their resume (when comparing to CSU and Marshall)

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sportswizuhrd

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Nov 27, 2014 5:09pm

Ironman92;1678996 wrote:Why is Boise St above Colorado State?

I was surprised by this as well. CSU has been ranked in other polls for the past 3-4 weeks and Boise just made their first appearance this week. I wonder if it is because Boise controls their own destiny in the MWC. This could be the committee showing that being in a conference title game is huge.

Boise St loses and CSU wins, CSU will be in the MWC title game, and likely make an appearance in the Top 25. If CSU does make it to the CFP Top 25, whether or not they jump Marshall will be interesting to see.

Ironman92

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Nov 27, 2014 5:19pm

sportswizuhrd;1679037 wrote:I was surprised by this as well. CSU has been ranked in other polls for the past 3-4 weeks and Boise just made their first appearance this week. I wonder if it is because Boise controls their own destiny in the MWC. This could be the committee showing that being in a conference title game is huge.

Boise St loses and CSU wins, CSU will be in the MWC title game, and likely make an appearance in the Top 25. If CSU does make it to the CFP Top 25, whether or not they jump Marshall will be interesting to see.

CSU would have a conference championship (stronger conf) and 2 wins vs two members of big 5 power conferences (both on the road)

I would think the committee would have them at #25 to let everyone know they are right there.

I would bet Marshall would travel better though.

Doesn't matter...BSU will beat Utah St and SDSU in championship and get the Jan 1 bowl.

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queencitybuckeye

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Nov 28, 2014 8:09am

KnightRyder;1678784 wrote:the last place team in the ACC coastal put a whoopin on the first place team in the Big Ten. apparently the B1G is worse.

The worst place team in the B1G beat the first place team in a division of the SEC. Apparently the SEC is worse.

and you're a retard.

pmoney25

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Nov 28, 2014 8:23am

queencitybuckeye;1679124 wrote:The worst place team in the B1G beat the first place team in a division of the SEC. Apparently the SEC is worse.

and you're a retard.

That is not technically an Apples to apples comparison. If Indiana beat Alabama then it would work better. Missouri is not the best team in the SEC. Ohio State is the best team in the whole B1G.

No way to get around it, the loss to VT was atrocious. Good news that it was early. I also think the fact we can win a conference championship game will put us ahead of MSU for sure. TCU/Baylor, I think we could possibly jump then as well but we need to be dominant.

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queencitybuckeye

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Nov 28, 2014 8:42am

pmoney25;1679126 wrote:That is not technically an Apples to apples comparison. If Indiana beat Alabama then it would work better. Missouri is not the best team in the SEC. Ohio State is the best team in the whole B1G.

No way to get around it, the loss to VT was atrocious. Good news that it was early. I also think the fact we can win a conference championship game will put us ahead of MSU for sure. TCU/Baylor, I think we could possibly jump then as well but we need to be dominant.

The larger point is that a bad team beating a good team does not prove anything more than a bad team beat a good team in one game. It has no larger meaning on its own.

And that KnightRyder is a retard.

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vball10set

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Nov 28, 2014 9:06am

queencitybuckeye;1679131 wrote:
And that KnightRyder is a retard.

reps for truth

FatHobbit

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Nov 29, 2014 5:53pm

Not sure if anyone brought this up or not, but I think JT being out will be enough to keep OSU out of the playoff assuming they are able to beat Wisconsin next week. (If they don't beat Wisconsin they will be out anyway)

ptown_trojans_1

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Nov 29, 2014 5:55pm

FatHobbit;1679697 wrote:Not sure if anyone brought this up or not, but I think JT being out will be enough to keep OSU out of the playoff assuming they are able to beat Wisconsin next week. (If they don't beat Wisconsin they will be out anyway)

Oh, it is the NCAA Basketball committee argument all the way.
No way OSU gets in unless we continue to get chaos like in 2007.

Azubuike24

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Nov 29, 2014 5:58pm

Exactly what was going to get OSU heavy consideration (Barrett was a completely different player than the one that lost to VT) is what will hurt them now (Barrett is out for the season).

IMO, this puts Baylor/TCU clearly ahead of OSU. If Baylor wins out, they likely go due to getting the head to head win over TCU. If Baylor loses, TCU likely goes given they are the Big 12 champion.

OSU needs help from Auburn/Missouri, Ole Miss, Florida/Georgia Tech and Oregon State/Arizona.

ptown_trojans_1

Posts: 7,632

Nov 29, 2014 6:29pm

Azubuike24;1679701 wrote:Exactly what was going to get OSU heavy consideration (Barrett was a completely different player than the one that lost to VT) is what will hurt them now (Barrett is out for the season).

IMO, this puts Baylor/TCU clearly ahead of OSU. If Baylor wins out, they likely go due to getting the head to head win over TCU. If Baylor loses, TCU likely goes given they are the Big 12 champion.

OSU needs help from Auburn/Missouri, Ole Miss, Florida/Georgia Tech and Oregon State/Arizona.

Well, they are getting some help. Miss St is losing, and FSU is still on the ropes per usual.

Azubuike24

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Nov 29, 2014 6:31pm

What will be crazy is if, all of the 1-loss teams lose. Say...

MSU loses today.
OSU loses next week.
Baylor loses to K-State.
FSU loses today.
Alabama loses another.

Then what???

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Tiernan

Posts: 13,021

Nov 29, 2014 7:01pm

Like I've said all along...OSU wants no part of being in these playoffs, especially now.