sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 19, 2015 6:35pm
Worst trade of the year goes to the 76ers. MCW for peanuts and draft picks. Stupid.
I don't think Dragic stays with the Heat because he's going to want a big deal at the end of the season. I don't think the Heat pay him.
I don't think Dragic stays with the Heat because he's going to want a big deal at the end of the season. I don't think the Heat pay him.
G
gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Feb 19, 2015 6:47pm
I'd bet money he stays with Miami. They wouldn't have done the trade if he wasn'tsleeper;1706694 wrote:Worst trade of the year goes to the 76ers. MCW for peanuts and draft picks. Stupid.
I don't think Dragic stays with the Heat because he's going to want a big deal at the end of the season. I don't think the Heat pay him.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 19, 2015 7:16pm
Goranlike_that;1706681 wrote:It is beyond me why teams bend over for Riley. I was listening to the le batard show (i know, its the only thing on) on the way home, and they were jerking off to this trade. Some of the guys were saying this might make their starting 5 one of the best in the league. LOL. It will bring even more lulz if Dragic leaves after the season is over. Essentially the Heat traded two first round picks for a guy who may not be on the team after this season. All to get bounced in the first round.
Wade
Deng
Bosh
Whiteside
Pretty damn good
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Feb 19, 2015 7:45pm
That trade doesn't make sense for Miami. Miami should be in rebuilding mode, not trading away picks. Wade is going down fast and Deng isn't far behind him.
G
gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Feb 19, 2015 7:50pm
It makes sense in the fact that its a whole different attraction to FA now. Add depth over the off season and they aren't very far from title contention. Assuming hassan is for real that is
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 19, 2015 8:02pm
And under .500 in the shitty east.robj55;1706700 wrote:Goran
Wade
Dend
Bosh
Whiteside
Pretty damn good
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 19, 2015 8:06pm
Not sure how they are going to afford any legit FAs when Dragic is looking to get paid near a max deal. Bosh, Wade, and Deng are already getting paid. On top of that, they just are not that good of a team. They will be a 6 seed at best, and I don't even see that happening. They are in or near the bottom of the league in ppg, rpg, and apg. I can't see dragic making THAT much of a difference.gport_tennis;1706706 wrote:It makes sense in the fact that its a whole different attraction to FA now. Add depth over the off season and they aren't very far from title contention. Assuming hassan is for real that is
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Feb 19, 2015 8:06pm
KG will buy the wolves and philly should be decent next year.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Feb 19, 2015 9:03pm
Is my sarcasm detector broken?gerb131;1706713 wrote:philly should be decent next year.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Feb 19, 2015 9:11pm
They're at least 3years out. And that's only if their picks starting panning out. Noel isn't a star, and apparently they aren't thrilled with Embid and his work effort.gerb131;1706713 wrote:KG will buy the wolves and philly should be decent next year.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 19, 2015 9:42pm
Just because the West is really deep doesn't meant that the East is shitty. Cleveland, Chicago, Atlanta, Toronto, Washington can all play with anyone in the West.Commander of Awesome;1706711 wrote:And under .500 in the shitty east.
F
friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Feb 19, 2015 10:38pm
Stopped reading there. Kidding, but that part of the day is the worst for sports radio. I was listening to Mad Dog Radio the other evening, and how Christopher Russo has a fucking radio station named after him is baffling. His opinions and perspective on sports are fine, but I've never heard someone sound so clumsy and borderline-dementia on the radio.like_that;1706681 wrote:It is beyond me why teams bend over for Riley. I was listening to the le batard show (i know, its the only thing on) on the way home, and they were jerking off to this trade. Some of the guys were saying this might make their starting 5 one of the best in the league. LOL. It will bring even more lulz if Dragic leaves after the season is over. Essentially the Heat traded two first round picks for a guy who may not be on the team after this season. All to get bounced in the first round.
F
friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Feb 19, 2015 10:47pm
No, the standings is what indicates the east is shitty. Those five teams you mentioned could compete, but the other nine are garbage.robj55;1706735 wrote:Just because the West is really deep doesn't meant that the East is shitty. Cleveland, Chicago, Atlanta, Toronto, Washington can all play with anyone in the West.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 19, 2015 10:57pm
And what does that matter? The goal is to win a championship, you're either a contender or you're not.friendfromlowry;1706748 wrote:No, the standings is what indicates the east is shitty. Those five teams you mentioned could compete, but the other nine are garbage.
F
friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Feb 19, 2015 11:02pm
The standings would indicate the east is filled with a bunch of non-contenders then. You tell me your system of evaluation, though.robj55;1706750 wrote:And what does that matter? The goal is to win a championship, you're either a contender or you're not.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 19, 2015 11:10pm
I look at it in terms of who can legitimately win a title. In the East there is Cleveland, Atlanta, Chicago, Washington. In the West there is SA, GS, OKC, MEM imo. Not a believer in Portland, Houston or the Clippers. I'm skeptical on the Warriors as well, shoot way too many jump shots.friendfromlowry;1706752 wrote:The standings would indicate the east is filled with a bunch of non-contenders then. You tell me your system of evaluation, though.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Feb 19, 2015 11:11pm
Not arguing the depth of the conference, but those top 5 can play with anyone in the West, and they have an equal number of contenders in my mind. Of course just my opinion though.friendfromlowry;1706752 wrote:The standings would indicate the east is filled with a bunch of non-contenders then. You tell me your system of evaluation, though.
G
gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Feb 19, 2015 11:23pm
I could honestly see any of the 8 out west winning it. The east contenders are Cleveland, atl and maybe Toronto
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 20, 2015 12:14am
Uhhhh chicago?gport_tennis;1706760 wrote:I could honestly see any of the 8 out west winning it. The east contenders are Cleveland, atl and maybe Toronto
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 20, 2015 7:17am
lol, I wouldn't blame you. I really hate the show, but there is nothing else. I sure as hell don't take what they say for gospel (like some here do with certain radio shows in Cleveland). I just thought it was funny they were jerking off the the Dragic trade.friendfromlowry;1706744 wrote:Stopped reading there. Kidding, but that part of the day is the worst for sports radio. I was listening to Mad Dog Radio the other evening, and how Christopher Russo has a fucking radio station named after him is baffling. His opinions and perspective on sports are fine, but I've never heard someone sound so clumsy and borderline-dementia on the radio.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 20, 2015 9:32am
This. In the east it's the Bulls and cavs. That's it.SportsAndLady;1706777 wrote:Uhhhh chicago?
G
gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Feb 20, 2015 9:37am
SportsAndLady;1706777 wrote:Uhhhh chicago?
If they get there defense fixed, I'll put them in the contender category. As of right now I don't see them being able to beat any of the big dogs out west. There defense is significantly worse this year in every category compared to last year. They are not a lock to make it out of the first round, especially if they have to go on the road to Washington.Commander of Awesome;1706809 wrote:This. In the east it's the Bulls and cavs. That's it.
G
gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Feb 20, 2015 9:40am
I don't understand how anybody is eliminating the hawks already. They are really fucking good and play extremely well as a team. They are the only team that scares me right now in the east as a Cavs fan.Commander of Awesome;1706809 wrote:This. In the east it's the Bulls and cavs. That's it.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 20, 2015 9:45am
Come on, the Bulls are built for the playoffs. Two 7 footers, good guard play, and mvp caliber wing player.gport_tennis;1706811 wrote:If they get there defense fixed, I'll put them in the contender category. As of right now I don't see them being able to beat any of the big dogs out west. There defense is significantly worse this year in every category compared to last year. They are not a lock to make it out of the first round, especially if they have to go on the road to Washington.
Defense is always gonna come around come playoff time.
As a cavs fan, Chicago is the only team in the east I really don't want to play.
G
gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Feb 20, 2015 9:47am
If the bulls played the wizards today in a 7 game series, I'm taking the wizards. The bulls have a higher ceiling... But ATM I'm not scared of Chicago in a 7 game series.SportsAndLady;1706815 wrote:Come on, the Bulls are built for the playoffs. Two 7 footers, good guard play, and mvp caliber wing player.
Defense is always gonna come around come playoff time.
As a cavs fan, Chicago is the only team in the east I really don't want to play.