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Jul 9, 2015 6:11pm
SportsAndLady;1739998 wrote:It's funny because I remember van gundy and Jackson talking about TT's defense when he gets switched to a smaller offensive player and how not a lot of PF's/C's in this league can do what he was doing.

But no, rob is right and he can't defend in the open space. Smh
I'm not saying he can't do it, I'm saying he gets lost out there and gets forced to switch when he shouldn't. No way in the world the Cavs wanted to swtich that much, if anyone can find a report saying that they did then I will gladly shut up and eat crow.
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Jul 9, 2015 6:20pm
HighRoller74;1739995 wrote:When the player immediately jumps out to guard the ball handler, that's 100% playcall. If the defender is late getting there, or reacting than most likely it was because they didn't rotate properly.

It was well discussed during the finals that the Cavs did not want to risk leaving Curry wide open on a failed switch, or if Delly got screened off. Which is why you saw TT immediately show on Curry and make sure a defender was in his face the entire time.
No that is a hard hedge, it is then up to the big defender to get back to his man instantly therefore no switch occurs. Watch the Spurs, they do this as well as anyone. You don't see Duncan getting switched out very often like that do you? It's extremely difficult obviously against a team like GS with how they can spread the floor and play small ball.
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Jul 9, 2015 6:24pm
From 2010 so that you can't counter age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuBQ0ARo0Eo

Duncan getting eaten alive by Nash/Amare PnR.
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Jul 9, 2015 6:26pm
HighRoller74;1740006 wrote:From 2010 so that you can't counter age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuBQ0ARo0Eo

Duncan getting eaten alive by Nash/Amare PnR.
Good post, I'll eat crow on that one.
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Jul 9, 2015 6:30pm
In defense of Duncan, Nash is probably the best pick and roll guard we have seen, he had that mastered. But I see your point.
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Jul 9, 2015 6:31pm
robj55;1740000 wrote:This isn't the court room brotha, take a deep breath.
Ask anyone who is really good friends with a lawyer. There's no on/off switch, even if I wanted there to be. I'm also nowhere near as big of an ass in real life as I am on here, but that doesn't really matter.
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Jul 9, 2015 6:33pm
lhslep134;1740009 wrote:Ask anyone who is really good friends with a lawyer. There's no on/off switch, even if I wanted there to be. I'm also nowhere near as big of an ass in real life as I am on here, but that doesn't really matter.
I'm friends with two of them, I know how it goes lol. I like your fire, just goes too far sometime.
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Jul 9, 2015 6:42pm
HighRoller74;1739893 wrote:
It'll put them over the Luxury tax, and they traded Harden because of not wanting to pay tax.
I was going to post this. What does everyone think about this? All hatred of Harden aside, wouldn't you rather break the bank for him than Enes Kanter?
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Jul 9, 2015 6:46pm
lhslep134;1740013 wrote:I was going to post this. What does everyone think about this? All hatred of Harden aside, wouldn't you rather break the bank for him than Enes Kanter?
They are a small market, how much revenue do they generate? I'm sure they regret not paying Harden.
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Jul 9, 2015 6:47pm
Well Wesley Matthews is a happy guy today. With DeAndre going back to LA, Matthews' deal went from 4/57 to 4/70. For a player coming off an achilles tear. Wow.
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Jul 9, 2015 6:49pm
lhslep134;1740013 wrote:I was going to post this. What does everyone think about this? All hatred of Harden aside, wouldn't you rather break the bank for him than Enes Kanter?
It says a lot about Harden when he is being compared to Enes Kanter.
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Jul 9, 2015 7:08pm
The money is incredible...it really is.
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Jul 10, 2015 12:07am
lhslep134;1740013 wrote:I was going to post this. What does everyone think about this? All hatred of Harden aside, wouldn't you rather break the bank for him than Enes Kanter?
I think the window to win in the NBA is narrow for most teams. If you're close you do whatever it takes, I think Presti's shine is coming off after getting fleeced in trades and striking out in FA recently. I would also fucking hate the OKC owners if I were an OKC fan for being cheap as shit.
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Jul 10, 2015 7:19am
It's only summer league, but good Lord.

https://instagram.com/p/48AEOoxhyL/
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Jul 10, 2015 11:06am
Dayummmmmm
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Jul 10, 2015 11:13am
Commander of Awesome;1740115 wrote: I would also fucking hate the OKC owners if I were an OKC fan for being cheap as shit.
Not unlike Tribe fans and the Dolans I guess
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Jul 10, 2015 11:15am
lhslep134;1740168 wrote:Not unlike Tribe fans and the Dolans I guess
This is true. I hate the Dolans a lot. Pretty much killed my interest in mlb.

They're def in my top ten most hated ppl in sports list.
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Jul 10, 2015 11:31am
Commander of Awesome;1740169 wrote:This is true. I hate the Dolans a lot. Pretty much killed my interest in mlb.

They're def in my top ten most hated ppl in sports list.
There are some parallels too:

Coming close--OKC in '12 Finals, Cleveland up 3-1 on BoSox to play an outmanned Rockies team in WS
Trading what helped get you close to avoid spending money--Harden and OKC; back-to-back Cy Young winners in Cleveland

Damn just got bitter about '07 ALCS all over again.
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Jul 10, 2015 12:04pm
lhslep134;1740174 wrote:There are some parallels too:

Coming close--OKC in '12 Finals, Cleveland up 3-1 on BoSox to play an outmanned Rockies team in WS
Trading what helped get you close to avoid spending money--Harden and OKC; back-to-back Cy Young winners in Cleveland

Damn just got bitter about '07 ALCS all over again.
Minor fact correction: Cliff Lee did NOT help us get close in 2007. In fact, I'm still bitter at him for literally only sucking that year of his career (until injuries/age got him).
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Jul 10, 2015 12:08pm
Kanter could be a 20 and 10 guy, he's not going to do much on defense and it's not like OKC is really going to run anything through him offensively if RW and KD are healthy. Then again, they have Ibaka so I can see why they would want to keep him.

For Portland, I don't get the move, unless it's just to make OKC overpay for him. It's still a gamble. He will basically have to be LaMarcus Aldridge all over again and make a name for himself. Name recognition wise, Kanter has been buried until the end of the year last year when he got some pub with OKC, so selling fans on "we lost Aldridge, but paid Kanter a max deal" isn't going to fly until he starts putting up the numbers.

With that said, he's overpaid in this situation, but the price for big men is staggering. They are ridiculous, actually.

Greg Monroe is a 14/9 guy for his career and just got a max deal. Kanter is 2 years younger and has gotten far less chances to show what he can do.
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Jul 10, 2015 12:09pm
Laley23;1740177 wrote:Minor fact correction: Cliff Lee did NOT help us get close in 2007. In fact, I'm still bitter at him for literally only sucking that year of his career (until injuries/age got him).
Jeremy Sowers!
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Jul 10, 2015 12:45pm
Azubuike24;1740178 wrote:Kanter could be a 20 and 10 guy, he's not going to do much on defense and it's not like OKC is really going to run anything through him offensively if RW and KD are healthy. Then again, they have Ibaka so I can see why they would want to keep him.

For Portland, I don't get the move, unless it's just to make OKC overpay for him. It's still a gamble. He will basically have to be LaMarcus Aldridge all over again and make a name for himself. Name recognition wise, Kanter has been buried until the end of the year last year when he got some pub with OKC, so selling fans on "we lost Aldridge, but paid Kanter a max deal" isn't going to fly until he starts putting up the numbers.

With that said, he's overpaid in this situation, but the price for big men is staggering. They are ridiculous, actually.

Greg Monroe is a 14/9 guy for his career and just got a max deal. Kanter is 2 years younger and has gotten far less chances to show what he can do.
And none of these deals are helping the Cavs with TT.
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Jul 10, 2015 12:50pm
Laley23;1740177 wrote:Minor fact correction: Cliff Lee did NOT help us get close in 2007. In fact, I'm still bitter at him for literally only sucking that year of his career (until injuries/age got him).
Right, he wasn't even on the postseason roster. But for the sake of argument let's merge Fausto Carmona's career year with Cliff Lee's performance that followed ;)
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Jul 10, 2015 6:48pm
2015-2016 salaries...
Pierce - $3.5M
Duncan -$5M
KG - $8M
Dirk - $8.3M
For a total of....$24.8M



Kobe Bryant - 25M.
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Jul 10, 2015 7:22pm
How the fuck did Garnett get $8 mil? Wolves below the salary floor or something?