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Jul 9, 2015 4:01pm
Blazers offered Enes Kanter the Max 4/70m offer sheet.

It'll be interesting to see if OKC Matches. It'll put them over the Luxury tax, and they traded Harden because of not wanting to pay tax.
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Jul 9, 2015 4:14pm
HighRoller74;1739893 wrote:Blazers offered Enes Kanter the Max 4/70m offer sheet.

It'll be interesting to see if OKC Matches. It'll put them over the Luxury tax, and they traded Harden because of not wanting to pay tax.
I'd let him walk for that price.
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Jul 9, 2015 4:27pm
sleeper;1739908 wrote:I'd let him walk for that price.
For a guy who can get 20 and 10? Yet guys like Tristan Thompson want the same amount per year basically?
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Jul 9, 2015 4:30pm
robj55;1739916 wrote:For a guy who can get 20 and 10? Yet guys like Tristan Thompson want the same amount per year basically?
He's nowhere near as good as TT.
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Jul 9, 2015 4:31pm
robj55;1739916 wrote:For a guy who can get 20 and 10? Yet guys like Tristan Thompson want the same amount per year basically?
Kanter is a negative defensively. Not a zero, a negative. That gets you taken off the court in the playoffs. Doesn't compare as a player to TT
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Jul 9, 2015 4:33pm
sleeper;1739918 wrote:He's nowhere near as good as TT.
lol you've never seen him play obviously, TT is one dimensional.
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Jul 9, 2015 4:34pm
lhslep134;1739919 wrote:Kanter is a negative defensively. Not a zero, a negative. That gets you taken off the court in the playoffs. Doesn't compare as a player to TT
TT is negative offensively so I guess that evens out.
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Jul 9, 2015 4:47pm
robj55;1739923 wrote:TT is negative offensively so I guess that evens out.
In what world does being a negative defensively even out with being a negative offensively on a team with Kyrie, Love, and Lebron?

It's a rhetorical question--the answer is in your NBA fantasy world, the same one where D-Wade is still a top player.

And if you think Kanter will get 20 and 12 with Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka all playing...el oh f'ing el*








*Although that's in line with the rest of your NBA fantasy world thoughts
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Jul 9, 2015 4:54pm
lhslep134;1739931 wrote:In what world does being a negative defensively even out with being a negative offensively on a team with Kyrie, Love, and Lebron?

It's a rhetorical question--the answer is in your NBA fantasy world, the same one where D-Wade is still a top player.

And if you think Kanter will get 20 and 12 with Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka all playing...el oh f'ing el*








*Although that's in line with the rest of your NBA fantasy world thoughts
I know he won't average that with their full cast, but he's still better than TT and they are garnering around the same amount of money. TT is a good rebounder, decent shot blocker, terrible in pick and roll defense, no footwork, no face up game, no post game. He does some little things to help you win though and the Cavs obviously want to keep him. Fantasy world thoughts? What are you talking about?
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Jul 9, 2015 4:55pm
robj55;1739923 wrote:TT is negative offensively so I guess that evens out.
He only needs to do 1 thing offensively and that is get rebounds. He is very good at that.

Kanter will put up good stats on bad teams; TT will be winning championships.
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Jul 9, 2015 4:56pm
robj55;1739933 wrote:but he's still better than TT ...TT is a good rebounder, decent shot blocker, terrible in pick and roll defense, no footwork, no face up game, no post game
Lol just stop dude
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Jul 9, 2015 4:58pm
SportsAndLady;1739936 wrote:Lol just stop dude
What did I say that wasn't true? I like Thompson for the Cavs but everything I said is accurate.
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Jul 9, 2015 4:59pm
sleeper;1739935 wrote:He only needs to do 1 thing offensively and that is get rebounds. He is very good at that.

Kanter will put up good stats on bad teams; TT will be winning championships.
I agree, he does what he is asked to do, but he isn't capable of anything else. I do believe that the Cavs will win multiple titles within the next few years.
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Jul 9, 2015 5:00pm
robj55;1739933 wrote:terrible in pick and roll defense,
lolwut?
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Jul 9, 2015 5:01pm
robj55;1739933 wrote: Fantasy world thoughts? What are you talking about?
I'm not going through the various NBA threads to pull up every post that we've called you out for making an asinine comment.

A notable one is you saying D Wade was still a top 10/15 player.

Your view of the NBA is out of touch with reality. I can't think of any easier way to explain the phrase "fantasy world thoughts"
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Jul 9, 2015 5:02pm
Commander of Awesome;1739944 wrote:lolwut?
Yeah, terrible, looks lost in space and torched every time he switches, very slow rotating back and recovering.
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Jul 9, 2015 5:02pm
robj55;1739933 wrote:I know he won't average that with their full cast, but he's still better than TT and they are garnering around the same amount of money. TT is a good rebounder, decent shot blocker, terrible in pick and roll defense, no footwork, no face up game, no post game. He does some little things to help you win though and the Cavs obviously want to keep him. Fantasy world thoughts? What are you talking about?
He's probably one of the best PF/C in the league in the pick and roll. Did you watch the finals? He was the only Cavs big that could switch the pick and roll.
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Jul 9, 2015 5:03pm
lhslep134;1739945 wrote:I'm not going through the various NBA threads to pull up every post that we've called you out for making an asinine comment.

A notable one is you saying D Wade was still a top 10/15 player.
I said he was a top 20 player when he was coming off a season where he averaged 20,5 and 5 while shooting over 50% from the field. That was over a year ago though. Come up with something else?
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Jul 9, 2015 5:04pm
sleeper;1739947 wrote:He's probably one of the best PF/C in the league in the pick and roll. Did you watch the finals? He was the only Cavs big that could switch the pick and roll.
Yeah he switched and got scored on every time, that's not being effective. He's not good in pick and roll coverage, at all. He was forced to switch because he's not good enough to hedge and recover.
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Jul 9, 2015 5:09pm
robj55;1739950 wrote:Yeah he switched and got scored on every time, that's not being effective. He's not good in pick and roll coverage, at all. He was forced to switch because he's not good enough to hedge and recover.
https://youtu.be/8shTPrZk3bw?t=5s

Queued this up for you. You can take your leave now.
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Jul 9, 2015 5:10pm
East vs West (this one brings the lulz)
robj55;1706735 wrote:Just because the West is really deep doesn't meant that the East is shitty. Cleveland, Chicago, Atlanta, Toronto, Washington can all play with anyone in the West.
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Jul 9, 2015 5:11pm
HighRoller74;1739955 wrote:https://youtu.be/8shTPrZk3bw?t=5s

Queued this up for you. You can take your leave now.
Appreciate that.