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Apr 15, 2015 10:18 AM
Spolestra is the worst coach in the NBA. He had a player named Lebron James and that's why the Heat were so good.

This season essentially proved it.
Apr 15, 2015 10:18am
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Apr 15, 2015 10:19 AM
Laley23;1721570 wrote:Not yet, and honestly, I bet they dont make it lol
If they didn't lose last night, I think it's destiny they make it lol
Apr 15, 2015 10:19am
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Apr 15, 2015 10:28 AM
Automatik;1721393 wrote:Yeah and they have been getting handled in those losses.

Kobe defended Westbrook for 54 on 43 shots. No surprise there.
His FG% on those 43 was better than the rest of the team's FG%

They are terrible
Apr 15, 2015 10:28am
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Apr 15, 2015 11:49 AM
Unless a guy is absolutely on fire he shouldn't be shooting that much. There is something to be said about getting your teammates involved as it increases their effort on both ends of the floor, and could lead to an even better shooting percentage as the offense isn't as predictable or one dimensional.

Not a fan of hero ball unless it was like Steph Curry the other night, even then he didn't shoot as much as Westbrook.
Apr 15, 2015 11:49am
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Apr 15, 2015 11:52 AM
sleeper;1721577 wrote:Spolestra is the worst coach in the NBA. He had a player named Lebron James and that's why the Heat were so good.

This season essentially proved it.
I think spolestra is a good coach, top 10ish for sure. They would have made the playoffs if bosh didn't get hurt. Tough to lose both Bron and bosh and still be competitive
Apr 15, 2015 11:52am
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Apr 15, 2015 11:57 AM
gport_tennis;1721618 wrote:I think spolestra is a good coach, top 10ish for sure. They would have made the playoffs if bosh didn't get hurt. Tough to lose both Bron and bosh and still be competitive
Look at Heat's roster. Look at the Celtics Roster. thanks.

Coaches I'd take over Sp:

Pop
Kerr
Rick Carlisle
Doc
Vogel
Stotts
McHale
Blatt
Joerger
Stevens
Mark Jackson

Off the top of my head without even thinking about it.
Apr 15, 2015 11:57am
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Apr 15, 2015 11:58 AM
Commander of Awesome;1721624 wrote:Look at Heat's roster. Look at the Celtics Roster. thanks.
Didn't say he was better than brad Stevens did I? I'd take only popovich over Brad Stevens. Brad Stevens has a chance to be the best coach ever IMO.
Apr 15, 2015 11:58am
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Apr 15, 2015 11:59 AM
gport_tennis;1721626 wrote:Didn't say he was better than brad Stevens did I? I'd take only popovich over Brad Stevens. Brad Stevens has a chance to be the best coach ever IMO.
Is that serious?
Apr 15, 2015 11:59am
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Apr 15, 2015 12:00 PM
SportsAndLady;1721627 wrote:Is that serious?
Yes. I'm not the only on to think he is an excellent coach.

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Brad Stevens is the best in game coach in the NBA. Pop has a better system / culture gets the rest stuff etc. But Stevens is best in game

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Apr 15, 2015 12:00pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:03 PM
Commander of Awesome;1721624 wrote:Look at Heat's roster. Look at the Celtics Roster. thanks.
Spoelstra could be top 10 and still not be better than Stevens so that doesn't really counter his point

Here's a list of the current coaches

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_National_Basketball_Association_head_coaches

I'd probably have Spoelstra and Vogel around the top 10.

1. Pop 2. Thibs 3. Stevens (he got them to the 7th seed, let's not overreact here...Thibs has done more with Joakim Noah as the fulcrum of his offense) 4-8 (no order) Kerr, Bud, SVG, Carlisle, Karl 9-11 Doc, Spoelstra, Vogel

But that doesn't necessarily mean they're good coaches; in the NBA talent means a lot more than coaching. I wouldn't argue with you if you thought guys like Stotts or Hornacek or anybody else in that range are better
Apr 15, 2015 12:03pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:06 PM
Also making the playoffs doesn't make you a good coach, I.e. Vinny del negro, mike brown, kevin McHale, etc.
Apr 15, 2015 12:06pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:10 PM
Stevens is obviously very good but the guy just made the playoffs for the first time. Let's ease up on "best coach of all time"
Apr 15, 2015 12:10pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:12 PM
SportsAndLady;1721636 wrote:Stevens is obviously very good but the guy just made the playoffs for the first time. Let's ease up on "best coach of all time"
2 finals fours at butler is pretty damn impressive, have to include that in with his career. I said he could be the best of ball time, he will obviously need some better players, but if he gets the talent I could see him making consistently deep runs for a long time.
Apr 15, 2015 12:12pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:13 PM
SportsAndLady;1721636 wrote:Stevens is obviously very good but the guy just made the playoffs for the first time. Let's ease up on "best coach of all time"
Right. But in the NBA success doesn't reflect good coaching as much as doing more with less does, so I'm pretty impressed by the job Stevens has done.
Apr 15, 2015 12:13pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:13 PM
His player development skills are very good as well, how many of those players are playing the best ball of their careers this year? Pretty much all of them I'd say
Apr 15, 2015 12:13pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:14 PM
SportsAndLady;1721636 wrote:Stevens is obviously very good but the guy just made the playoffs for the first time. Let's ease up on "best coach of all time"
And lets face it, he only barely made the playoffs in the weak East even with the Cavs giving them 2 free wins.
Apr 15, 2015 12:14pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:34 PM
Pretty excited for tonight's slate. 4 games to decide 2 playoff spots. OKC @ MIN and SA @ NOP; IND @ MEM and ORL @ BKN
Apr 15, 2015 12:34pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:36 PM
The Celtics traded away Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green and all Stevens has done is led them to the 4th best record in the NBA since Feb. 2 with Evan Turner at PG. Stevens is incredible.
Apr 15, 2015 12:36pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:49 PM
gport_tennis;1721618 wrote:I think spolestra is a good coach, top 10ish for sure. They would have made the playoffs if bosh didn't get hurt. Tough to lose both Bron and bosh and still be competitive
He's got a team of name brand stars and he can't even make the playoffs in the East. He's a bottom 5 coach at best right there with Derek Fisher LOL
Apr 15, 2015 12:49pm
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Apr 15, 2015 12:51 PM
Terry_Tate;1721652 wrote:The Celtics traded away Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green and all Stevens has done is led them to the 4th best record in the NBA since Feb. 2 with Evan Turner at PG. Stevens is incredible.
That's great, but it was also a soft schedule. I think Stevens is a great coach though.
Apr 15, 2015 12:51pm
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Apr 15, 2015 1:10 PM
sleeper;1721658 wrote:He's got a team of name brand stars and he can't even make the playoffs in the East. He's a bottom 5 coach at best right there with Derek Fisher LOL
Henry Walker played 40 minutes, Haslem, Beasley and Tyler Johnston all played 20+ minutes in their last game. Bosh has missed half the year, wasde has missed 20+ games, Team of name brand stars? where?
Apr 15, 2015 1:10pm
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Apr 15, 2015 3:10 PM
Miami had a shit ton of injuries all year, next year if they are healthy they will be a top 3 team in the East and one of the best teams in the league.
Apr 15, 2015 3:10pm
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Apr 15, 2015 3:15 PM
robj55;1721754 wrote:Miami had a shit ton of injuries all year, next year if they are healthy they will be a top 3 team in the East and one of the best teams in the league.
Led wades corpse? GTFO. They should have easily made the playoffs this year and didn't. I see them as a 5th seed, and not even close to one of the best teams in the league.
Apr 15, 2015 3:15pm
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Apr 15, 2015 3:16 PM
robj55;1721754 wrote:Miami had a shit ton of injuries all year, next year if they are healthy they will be a top 3 team in the East and one of the best teams in the league.
No and No.
Apr 15, 2015 3:16pm