I would trade West if it Carolina gave us a 1st (never gonna happen) or a 2nd.like_that;1658903 wrote:Lol no. You have two good rookie rbs who are locked up in rookie contracts. That would be a very dumb trade.
Agreed. Why are we talking about these pie in the sky trade scenarios when we could be talking about something legit, like the Manziel to Oakland trade?lhslep134;1659047 wrote: Edit: I don't know why we're talking about this though.
I heard his interview today about Pettine making him the starter, assuming he's healthy, for the Titans game. Kinda sounded like a bitch throwing Crowell & West under the bus because "it's ok if you have one or two games but I've proven myself in this league" or something to that effect. Wasn't verbatim but every time the guy does an interview he rubs me the wrong way.bases_loaded;1659063 wrote:Ben Tate is the best back on the team. That is all
BR1986FB;1659082 wrote:I heard his interview today about Pettine making him the starter, assuming he's healthy, for the Titans game. Kinda sounded like a bitch throwing Crowell & West under the bus because "it's ok if you have one or two games but I've proven myself in this league" or something to that effect. Wasn't verbatim but every time the guy does an interview he rubs me the wrong way.
Pretty sure Tate's 2nd yr is non guaranteed. I'd expect Browns to cut him honestly.like_that;1659092 wrote:He has seemed pretty defensive when it comes to talking about the rookies. If it provides a chip on his shoulder, I am all for it. He is locked up for two years. If West/Crowell keep it up, I don't expect the Browns to resign Tate. Hopefully after Tate's 2nd season the Browns can find another rookie RB. Just keep churning them out.
He has 6 carries. Enough of the 6.8 average stuff.bases_loaded;1659124 wrote:Why are we in a hurry to cut a guy with a cheap contract averaging 6.8 ypc and has proven when healthy to be a good nfl running back?
Agreed. I haven't been following his stats but heard 6.8 ypc on here yesterday and thought "nice." Then, driving home, I hear "on 6 carries for the year" and that changed to "not enough body of work to crown him yet."Rotinaj;1659127 wrote:He has 6 carries. Enough of the 6.8 average stuff.
I don't think anybody is in a hurry to cut him. What I do think is that, if history plays out, he'll be off the team because he'll be spending more time in the ice tub than on the field.bases_loaded;1659124 wrote:Why are we in a hurry to cut a guy with a cheap contract averaging 6.8 ypc and has proven when healthy to be a good nfl running back?
+1. It would be a little different if he missed a game or 2 a season as the featured back. That isn't the case though, he got hurt every year as a back up while averaging like 10 carries a game. If he stays healthy the rest of the year and is averaging around 5 YPC I doubt anyone is going to be calling for him to get cut.BR1986FB;1659222 wrote:I don't think anybody is in a hurry to cut him. What I do think is that, if history plays out, he'll be off the team because he'll be spending more time in the ice tub than on the field.
What rubbed me the wrong way about his comments was that he came off like he has this long "track record" of being a proven feature back in the league when that's not the case.Rotinaj;1659223 wrote:+1. It would be a little different if he missed a game or 2 a season as the featured back. That isn't the case though, he got hurt every year as a back up while averaging like 10 carries a game. If he stays healthy the rest of the year and is averaging around 5 YPC I doubt anyone is going to be calling for him to get cut.
Well said. Essentially my thoughts but you conveyed it much better.Laley23;1659262 wrote:Ben Tate seems very bitter at the fact he finally got the chance to be a feature back, got hurt again, and is seemingly going to be used in a platoon role. Coming off as very selfish, which has no place in a young, developing team.
How do you know they're better with Tate? He has 6 carries lol he's basically played half a game. A half where we got blown the fuck out. Then he was replaced and the team came back lolbases_loaded;1659273 wrote:You hear bitter. I hear confidence. Our RBs have 4 catches this year and have gone the wrong way(West) multiple times. This team is better with Tate and since you have depth, him being injury prone isn't as big of an issue. I like Crowell, I think hes going to be a beast in the league...but at this point you are a better team with Ben Tate as your lead back because he can do it all.
I actually agree with this a bit. Not that I think Crowell and West aren't good, I just would prefer to start a veteran over two rookies in week 5 because I feel like there will be fewer breakdowns in all aspects of the game (pass blocking assignments, pass catching, etc.) I DO think Crowell and West are both going to be good, but let's keep them hungry and not just hand it to them. It's not like we're Tennessee where Shonn Greene is the starter and Sankey is way more talented. Tate is a very good back with an injury history. Let's roll with him and spell the other two, and then if Tate goes down we've got two quality backs that have (hopefully) been working harder to show what they've got.bases_loaded;1659273 wrote:You hear bitter. I hear confidence. Our RBs have 4 catches this year and have gone the wrong way(West) multiple times. This team is better with Tate and since you have depth, him being injury prone isn't as big of an issue. I like Crowell, I think hes going to be a beast in the league...but at this point you are a better team with Ben Tate as your lead back because he can do it all.
I mean, it was a ridiculous amount of drug tests.BR1986FB;1659309 wrote:So now Josh Gordon is complaining about "all of the drug tests he has to take?" Really, Josh? Really?
Comes with the territory. He dug his grave. Has nobody to blame but himself.SportsAndLady;1659311 wrote:I mean, it was a ridiculous amount of drug tests.
Go ahead and believe that all you want. 75+ drug tests in a year is crazy, I don't care who you are. We don't have convicted felons getting drug tested that many times.BR1986FB;1659315 wrote:Comes with the territory. He dug his grave. Has nobody to blame but himself.