At least St Louis isn't in Ohio

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Nov 30, 2014 11:15am
It's not so much what legal or isn't but how they're enforced. It took Obama to sign the fair sentencing act to quit putting blacks in jail for 5 years for crack use but giving affluent whites a slap on the wrist for using coke. The same drug just in different form.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:16am
SportsAndLady;1679967 wrote:Aw I must have hurt your feelings. Lol
You can't hurt anyone's feelings because you never provide anything of substance. you chime in every now and then with some half wit comment that everyone shakes their head and feels sorry for you.
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Con_Alma
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Nov 30, 2014 11:20am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679969 wrote:It's not so much what legal or isn't but how they're inforced. It took Obama to sign the fair sentencing act to quit putting blacks in jail for 5 years for crack use but giving affluent whites a slap on the wrist for using coke. The same drug just in different form.
I fully support mandatory sentences for all drug related crimes taking away any discretion from all judges to solve this perceived problem. In fact, I'd like to see the maximum penalty be made the mandatory.

Heck, I'd support across the board for all violent crimes too. That doesn't mean I'm willing to break the law in an effort to get it changed, however.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:21am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679971 wrote:You can't hurt anyone's feelings because you never provide anything of substance. you chime in every now and then with some half wit comment that everyone shakes their head and feels sorry for you.
Lol yeah, everyone on here feels sorry for ME...
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Nov 30, 2014 11:24am
SportsAndLady;1679976 wrote:Lol yeah, everyone on here feels sorry for ME...
i know it breaks your heart to know most people on OC think you're one of the biggest idiots on here, but unfortunately its true :(
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Al Bundy
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Nov 30, 2014 11:24am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679971 wrote: you never provide anything of substance.
pot meet kettle
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Nov 30, 2014 11:26am
Al Bundy;1679979 wrote:pot meet kettle
Says the man who solely trolls on the high school football forum
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Al Bundy
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Nov 30, 2014 11:33am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679982 wrote:Says the man who solely trolls on the high school football forum
Are you jealous that my screen name was a football legend while your screen name was a huge bust in high school and college?
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Nov 30, 2014 11:34am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679978 wrote:i know it breaks your heart to know most people on OC think you're one of the biggest idiots on here, but unfortunately its true :(
I know. If only I was as cool and hip and progressive as you zwick. You are definitely the coolest poster on here, I mean you picked up a girl on here once!
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Nov 30, 2014 11:35am
Al Bundy;1679983 wrote:Are you jealous that my screen name was a football legend while your screen name was a huge bust in high school and college?
he was pretty good in high school actually.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:38am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679986 wrote:he was pretty good in high school actually.
Once he took the big money to transfer to Massillon, he choked in the playoffs for us every year.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:38am
SportsAndLady;1679985 wrote:I know. If only I was as cool and hip and progressive as you zwick. You are definitely the coolest poster on here, I mean you picked up a girl on here once!
It has nothing to do with being cool and hip. You're a little asshole that interjects his little asshole thoughts at every chance he can. Then hides behind his group of Internet buddies to protect him. That's why people get tired of you.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:40am
Al Bundy;1679988 wrote:Once he took the big money to transfer to Massillon, he choked in the playoffs for us every year.
His dad took the money. You're slipping.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:40am
As long as people keep making excuses like zwick, there will never be change.

You could be the best coach in the world, but you aren't going to be able to help somebody get better if they aren't willing to put in the work and help themselves.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:41am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679989 wrote:It has nothing to do with being cool and hip. You're a little asshole that interjects his little asshole thoughts at every chance he can. Then hides behind his group of Internet buddies to protect him. That's why people get tired of you.
The guy that hardly posts on here, somehow knows the whole dynamic of this website. LOL
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Nov 30, 2014 11:46am
like_that;1679991 wrote:As long as people keep making excuses like zwick, there will never be change.

You could be the best coach in the world, but you aren't going to be able to help somebody get better if they aren't willing to put in the work and help themselves.

And you're right. Most blacks do need to get their shit together. No one will deny that, even black people. But people want to blame everything on that bc it's easier than to admit there's other problems.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:50am
like_that;1679992 wrote:The guy that hardly posts on here, somehow knows the whole dynamic of this website. LOL
I hardly post on here bc this place is dead now. No one posts on here anymore. . It's the same shit that's been going on for the last 5 years though. It's nothing new.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:51am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679995 wrote:And you're right. Most blacks do need to get their shit together. No one will deny that, even black people. But people want to blame everything on that bc it's easier than to admit there's other problems.
What problems are you crying about that don't start with someone breaking the law?
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Nov 30, 2014 11:53am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679995 wrote:And you're right. Most blacks do need to get their shit together. No one will deny that, even black people. But people want to blame everything on that bc it's easier than to admit there's other problems.
I personally don't blame "everything on that" and would be happy to listen and try and understand any other problem that exist. IN the end, people of any race not having their sh1t together doesn't make it acceptable to not respect the laws they don't agree with. When they don't it opens the door for the rest of society to not respect the laws that the people who don't have their sh1t together want to have in place.
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Nov 30, 2014 11:56am
Al Bundy;1679999 wrote:What problems are you crying about that don't start with someone breaking the law?
I didn't realize being black was breaking the law. But I don't think you'll find many people who are against profiling right?
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Nov 30, 2014 11:56am
And that's the problem. Everyone feels they should have to do whatever the cops want so you don't get killed.
That's a false narrative. You comply with the police to help them serve us better. There job is to protect us from lawbreakers and in doing that their life is always on the line. You don't know what is going down around you. They may be on the lookout for an armed criminal. They have to go into rough neighborhoods. And you can be sure that they want to go home at the end of the day and see their families just like any other law abiding citizen wants to do.
Are their bad cops, sure. Are some racist? sure. But mostly there are an awful lot of good cops too. Assume that the guy stopping you is a good guy doing his job. If he abuses you...FILE A COMPLAINT...afterward.

In any situation that involves a firearm, the first thing you try to do is defuse the situation. You NEVER provoke a man with a gun whether it be a criminal or a cop....and that has nothing to do with race.



...and you still didn't answer the question I asked. Is there ever a good reason NOT to comply with police requests/orders? If NO then why is that message not being put out there? If yes, then tell me what the circumstances are that you are allowed to provoke a police officer.
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Nov 30, 2014 12:03pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1680002 wrote:I didn't realize being black was breaking the law. But I don't think you'll find many people who are against profiling right?
No one said it was. I see that you are ducking the question because you are getting destroyed on this thread.
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Nov 30, 2014 12:04pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679995 wrote:And you're right. Most blacks do need to get their shit together. No one will deny that, even black people. But people want to blame everything on that bc it's easier than to admit there's other problems.
Very few black people unfortunately, and the very few are irrelevant to the black community. They are all viewed as uncle toms.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1679998 wrote:I hardly post on here bc this place is dead now. No one posts on here anymore. . It's the same shit that's been going on for the last 5 years though. It's nothing new.
Nobody is forcing you to post here. The fact of the matter is you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to what is going on with this site.
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Nov 30, 2014 12:09pm
Al Bundy;1680006 wrote:No one said it was. I see that you are ducking the question because you are getting destroyed on this thread.
Tons of people say it's fine. Leads to arrests.
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Nov 30, 2014 12:11pm
like_that;1680008 wrote:Very few black people unfortunately, and the very few are irrelevant to the black community. They are all viewed as uncle toms.


Nobody is forcing you to post here. The fact of the matter is you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to what is going on with this site.
No one is forcing you to post here either. You know you're part of the problem and people have pointed it out to you before and you got butthurt about it. I see nothing has changed