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vball10set
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Jul 24, 2014 1:18pm
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/07/24/ohio-state-band-waters.html
Ohio State University has fired the director of its marching band and is expanding an internal investigation that uncovered a deep culture of sexual harassment among students that reportedly has existed for years.
sleeper
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Jul 24, 2014 1:22pm
Embarrassed. Glad he is gone. He'll end up in the SEC somewhere.
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vball10set
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Jul 24, 2014 1:25pm
Oh, those crazy band geeks...
Examples of abuse include an annual midnight band practice at Ohio Stadium in which men and women were expected to march wearing only their underwear. In one recent year, a student suffered alcohol poisoning at the practice. Students led the rehearsal, but staff members, including Waters, were there, too.
Some other traditions: All new band members, or “rookies,” were given nicknames, many of which were sexually explicit. Rookies were forced to perform “tricks” on command. In one case, a female student was told to imitate a sexual act on the laps of other band members, including her brother.
Several witnesses said that students performed a “flying 69” on tour buses, in which band members hung from the luggage racks and posed in a sexual position. Waters was on the bus when that happened as recently as last fall, according to a band staff member who quit last year.
SnotBubbles
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Jul 24, 2014 1:25pm
Apparently he stuck his flute in one too many pussies.
Dr Winston O'Boogie
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Jul 24, 2014 1:26pm
I can't tell if this is legit or a politically correct boondoggle. The way they're handling it makes me suspect the latter. Maybe it'll relegate the marching band to the back burned where it belongs. Making shapes on the field and playing the fight songs do not warrant the adulation it gets.
sleeper
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Jul 24, 2014 1:31pm
It's about pride. The band is a visual representation of the greatest school in world history and the pride that each Ohioan has in its home team. It's not about shapes and music. Stop being a grumpy old man.Dr Winston O'Boogie;1638569 wrote:I can't tell if this is legit or a politically correct boondoggle. The way they're handling it makes me suspect the latter. Maybe it'll relegate the marching band to the back burned where it belongs. Making shapes on the field and playing the fight songs do not warrant the adulation it gets.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jul 24, 2014 1:36pm
Its fucking band, they play instruments... Harassment, hard work and nick name thin out the weak and it about time some learn about sex, what better place than college this maybe the only place many of the band geeks get socially accepted.
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Zoltan
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Jul 24, 2014 1:44pm
After reading the dispatch report nothing would have even caused me to blink when I was involved in team sports. Every coach at my high school would have been fired under these rules. Times they are a changin.
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queencitybuckeye
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Jul 24, 2014 1:47pm
While the pendulum often swings too far in the opposite direction this is not altogether bad.Zoltan;1638580 wrote:Times they are a changin.
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Wally
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Jul 24, 2014 1:49pm
Somebody violated the "What happens at band camp stays at band camp" rule.
Fab4Runner
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Jul 24, 2014 1:56pm
Nicknames, underwear practices, etc. would not bother me. But having to imitate a sexual act on my brother's lap...#nope. Would not be a huge fan of that.
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vball10set
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Jul 24, 2014 2:01pm
yeah, that's definitely crossing the line.Fab4Runner;1638583 wrote:But having to imitate a sexual act on my brother's lap...#nope. Would not be a huge fan of that.
sleeper
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Jul 24, 2014 2:09pm
Standard protocol at WVU.Fab4Runner;1638583 wrote:Nicknames, underwear practices, etc. would not bother me. But having to imitate a sexual act on my brother's lap...#nope. Would not be a huge fan of that.
Heretic
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Jul 24, 2014 2:29pm
Except for how those acts aren't being simulated down there because the sibs have been doing them for real since about age 11.sleeper;1638585 wrote:Standard protocol at WVU.
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vball10set
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Jul 24, 2014 2:36pm
[video=youtube;uYWQAg12Ko0][/video]SnotBubbles;1638568 wrote:Apparently he stuck his flute in one too many pussies.
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WebFire
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Jul 24, 2014 3:20pm
Sounds like typical college kids to me.Zoltan;1638580 wrote:After reading the dispatch report nothing would have even caused me to blink when I was involved in team sports. Every coach at my high school would have been fired under these rules. Times they are a changin.
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Zoltan
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Jul 24, 2014 3:36pm
Will most of the band members who participated in this be kicked out? Seems like the only answer if they were doing something so horrible it got the band director fired for just knowing about it.
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sportchampps
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Jul 24, 2014 3:48pm
I talked to a co worker who was in the OSU band. He had a little more information and read the whole report. From what he told me this has happened for as long as he has known. He was in the band from 1992-1996 and said these were all standard practices. He also said almost everything in the referenced in the reports are band traditions at OSU. The report talks about certain songs in the band book each member is given. He said some of those songs are so old you can tell they were typed on typewriters and not printed off computers. He said basically their giving the director the boot for things that happened before he was there and that from what he had heard the guy was cleaning up a little bit at a time.
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vball10set
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Jul 24, 2014 3:53pm
^^^That's the way it usually goes, ain't it? Somebody gets a burr up their ass and the pc police think they have to act swiftly, so they chop off the head. Now, how long before the band director files a lawsuit??
sleeper
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Jul 24, 2014 4:07pm
Doubt he files a lawsuit.vball10set;1638614 wrote:^^^That's the way it usually goes, ain't it? Somebody gets a burr up their ass and the pc police think they have to act swiftly, so they chop off the head. Now, how long before the band director files a lawsuit??
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Jul 24, 2014 6:15pm
Sounding more and more like a made up scandel of the PC variety. I assume most of the band's best "shot" is with another band member. So just let them be with their little games and rites of passages. Until they make an X rated shape on the field while playing some French marching tune, leave it alone. One of Meyer's recruits will rape some coed soon enough and this will all look silly.
Sleeper, I am very proud of Ohio State and my degree. The marching band plays zero part in tyhat.
Sleeper, I am very proud of Ohio State and my degree. The marching band plays zero part in tyhat.
HitsRus
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Jul 24, 2014 6:27pm
^^^ Hard to believe a real Buckeye would say that much less admit it.
SportsAndLady
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Jul 24, 2014 6:39pm
Who cares it's a fucking band
Pick6
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Jul 24, 2014 9:19pm
not pc and definitely a fireable offense. dude is a fucking weirdo. underwear practices? not to mention the imitating of giving your brother head.
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Tiernan
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Jul 24, 2014 9:35pm
My lead-in was much better. Other than that it's the fkn band and local sports radio is making way too much about this BS.