lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 3, 2014 2:13pm
Then you should have no problem with using TS%. But since you're averse to it, and the past hour and a half has been a fruitless attempt by everyone on here to get you to step out of the damn dark ages of stats, I now have to be done with this.robj55;1632793 wrote: I get that 3's are worth more than 2's, everyone understands that. Not rocket science.
Coa, like_that, Laley, S&L, Sleeper, and others, can you keep up the advanced metric battle? I'm sick of repeating myself.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 2:14pm
I get all of this.Laley23;1632798 wrote:I tried to explain that.
Ill try again.
If someone shoots 38% from 3...they will be equal to Dwyane Wade from 2 (yes Rob, I took out the 3s he took and only counted the 2s) 57% in terms of points scored if they take the same amount of shots. Ill take the guy who shoots 38% from 3 and can space the floor a lot better.
This is all before we take into consideration that those players shoot better from 2 than Wade from 3, in the reverse portion of it.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 2:15pm
I don't have a problem using it, just not going to use it as my MAIN argument. Because it doesn't take into account shot selection. Wade's percentage from the field is high because he gets the shots he wants and they are good shots for him. Shot selection is a part of shooting percentage whether or not anyone wants to admit it or not.lhslep134;1632799 wrote:Then you should have no problem with using TS%. But since you're averse to it, and the past hour and a half has been a fruitless attempt by everyone on here to get you to step out of the damn dark ages of stats, I now have to be done with this.
Coa, like_that, Laley, and others, can you keep up the advanced metric battle? I'm sick of repeating myself.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 3, 2014 2:17pm
lol. What the fuck man? YOU SAID: "Second part has nothing to do with it, we are talking about last year, not moving forward." This validates YOUR position that Wade was a top 25 player last year and moving forward he is no longer a top 25 player. Now you are saving it is still to be determined. Did you graduate high school? Do you know what logic is and how to apply it?robj55;1632797 wrote:That is to be determined, if he isn't I will admit as much. We have no idea how he is going to respond over the summer and going into next year. He has been left for dead before remember?
Either Wade is a top 25 player now and moving forward or he is not a top 25 player. There is no difference in saying either statement. It's logically valid to say he WAS a top 25 player maybe a few years ago when he had 2 functioning knees but you cannot say he is a top 25 player NOW but not moving forward. Do you get it?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 2:21pm
No it doesn't validate anything, you or I have no idea how he is going to play next year. Could maintain or could have a significant drop off. To be determined. All I know is what he was last year, and that's top 25. Based on what we saw last year he was top 25. I think you misreading what I am trying to say or I am doing a poor job of illustrating my point clearly.sleeper;1632803 wrote:lol. What the fuck man? YOU SAID: "Second part has nothing to do with it, we are talking about last year, not moving forward." This validates YOUR position that Wade was a top 25 player last year and moving forward he is no longer a top 25 player. Now you are saving it is still to be determined. Did you graduate high school? Do you know what logic is and how to apply it?
Either Wade is a top 25 player now and moving forward or he is not a top 25 player. There is no difference in saying either statement. It's logically valid to say he WAS a top 25 player maybe a few years ago when he had 2 functioning knees but you cannot say he is a top 25 player NOW but not moving forward. Do you get it?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 3, 2014 2:27pm
LOL at Rob. Keep fighting the fight little guy.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 2:29pm
Someone has to lol I'm not little though lollike_that;1632811 wrote:LOL at Rob. Keep fighting the fight little guy.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 3, 2014 2:30pm
Yeah this is brutal.
Anyways...
Melo is in LA meeting with the lakers and the Knicks.
Sounds about right for melo. Can't carry a team on his own, so might as well go to LA.
Anyways...
Melo is in LA meeting with the lakers and the Knicks.
Sounds about right for melo. Can't carry a team on his own, so might as well go to LA.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 3, 2014 2:33pm
You are doing a poor job indeed. Apparently you are making value judgement on the future for other players but keeping Wade in your special TOP 25 PLAYER BOX NOW but not in the future. Which do you think is more relevant? What a player did 10 years ago or what a player can do today?robj55;1632805 wrote:No it doesn't validate anything, you or I have no idea how he is going to play next year. Could maintain or could have a significant drop off. To be determined. All I know is what he was last year, and that's top 25. Based on what we saw last year he was top 25. I think you misreading what I am trying to say or I am doing a poor job of illustrating my point clearly.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 2:33pm
You think him and Kobe could have any type of chemistry?SportsAndLady;1632815 wrote:Yeah this is brutal.
Anyways...
Melo is in LA meeting with the lakers and the Knicks.
Sounds about right for melo. Can't carry a team on his own, so might as well go to LA.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 3, 2014 2:34pm
As much as I've talked down about Melo(which is a lot), I honestly think LA would be a good spot. Pau has said he will re-sign if they land Melo and Kobe will be back, 100%. My only major concern would be who they are looking at for a coach(Byron Scott). I want nothing to do him as a coach.SportsAndLady;1632815 wrote:Yeah this is brutal.
Anyways...
Melo is in LA meeting with the lakers and the Knicks.
Sounds about right for melo. Can't carry a team on his own, so might as well go to LA.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 2:35pm
I'm only making a value judgement on the most recent occurrence, the 2013-2014 NBA season, I mean what else could I base it on? That is what he can do today. Now if we are talking about guys who I want for the future from your list, entirely different outcome.sleeper;1632818 wrote:You are doing a poor job indeed. Apparently you are making value judgement on the future for other players but keeping Wade in your special TOP 25 PLAYER BOX NOW but not in the future. Which do you think is more relevant? What a player did 10 years ago or what a player can do today?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 3, 2014 2:42pm
It's just much easier to call you a delusional idiot who's never picked up a basketball in his life rather than continue this argument.robj55;1632822 wrote:I'm only making a value judgement on the most recent occurrence, the 2013-2014 NBA season, I mean what else could I base it on? That is what he can do today. Now if we are talking about guys who I want for the future from your list, entirely different outcome.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 3, 2014 2:43pm
Melo needs to go to Chicago where the team is still good enough defensively to win 4 vs 5 on that end lol
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 2:48pm
We should play on one one to decide it. lolsleeper;1632825 wrote:It's just much easier to call you a delusional idiot who's never picked up a basketball in his life rather than continue this argument.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 2:48pm
Yes lolLaley23;1632826 wrote:Melo needs to go to Chicago where the team is still good enough defensively to win 4 vs 5 on that end lol
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 3, 2014 3:03pm
Pretty sure I'm the best basketball player on here and its not even close. Just ask SAGE; he believes I could play in the NBA.robj55;1632830 wrote:We should play on one one to decide it. lol
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 3, 2014 3:08pm
Anyways, I think Lebron signs a 3 year deal with Miami at Max contract levels and years 2 and 3 being player options. That gives Lebron the flexibility and money he is looking for and keeps the pressure on the Heat to replace Wade/Bosh with some actual talent.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 3, 2014 3:19pm
Thabo Sefolosha has signed a 3 year, $12 mil deal with the Hawks.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 4:04pm
I'll take your word for it lolsleeper;1632834 wrote:Pretty sure I'm the best basketball player on here and its not even close. Just ask SAGE; he believes I could play in the NBA.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jul 3, 2014 4:04pm
Couldn't they all take back loaded deals or no?sleeper;1632837 wrote:Anyways, I think Lebron signs a 3 year deal with Miami at Max contract levels and years 2 and 3 being player options. That gives Lebron the flexibility and money he is looking for and keeps the pressure on the Heat to replace Wade/Bosh with some actual talent.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 3, 2014 4:13pm
I feel like at some point over the 4 years at tOSU I either played with you or saw you there at the rec. I can vouch that you're good.sleeper;1632834 wrote:Pretty sure I'm the best basketball player on here and its not even close. Just ask SAGE; he believes I could play in the NBA.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 3, 2014 4:16pm
Holy shit this thread is busy! Was reading to just catch up and read a few pages and then at the bottom of about my 3rd page of reading it said that last post was 4 hrs ago but at very bottom said 168 more posts. Too much for me.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 3, 2014 4:44pm
Yeah, it's been a steaming hot pile of crap today.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 3, 2014 4:48pm
No one else is fighting the fight because it's a stupid fight. You are so ignorant of basketball statistics it is ridiculous. And when you get too far behind you just tell people that they don't play basketball so they can't be knowledgable. I will dunk on your dumb ass.robj55;1632813 wrote:Someone has to lol I'm not little though lol