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Jul 15, 2014 10:53 PM
KB0938;1636510 wrote:So you're saying craft would be the best defender in the NBA on the perimeter?
No but he would be one of the best. What I was saying that if you're saying that he can't guard on the perimeter in the NBA then there is basically no one that can so it's a moot point.
Jul 15, 2014 10:53pm
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Jul 15, 2014 11:01 PM
Eh i think hed be good, but i could think of a handful of guards off the top of my head who id rather have defensively and arent nearly as bad of a trade off offensively. I think hell compete but ultimately end up in a high level European league
Jul 15, 2014 11:01pm
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Jul 15, 2014 11:05 PM
KB0938;1636513 wrote:Eh i think hed be good, but i could think of a handful of guards off the top of my head who id rather have defensively and arent nearly as bad of a trade off offensively. I think hell compete but ultimately end up in a high level European league
Right I'm definitely not talking about offensively lol Strictly defensively. I've said all along that he has an uphill battle do to his deficiencies but he does have an actual NBA skill in defending. He seems to be in the perfect spot as Steve Kerr loves him. Like you said though there is always Europe where he would make a shit ton of money either way.
Jul 15, 2014 11:05pm
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Jul 15, 2014 11:37 PM
Craft ain't playin in no damn NBA
Jul 15, 2014 11:37pm
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Jul 15, 2014 11:59 PM
I don't think Craft has a chance but he is in the perfect place. I have seen a couple Kerr interviews and he has went out of his way to heap praise on Craft without being prompted. I think his original quote was Craft is a baller. He's said he likes his basketball iq and drive.
Jul 15, 2014 11:59pm
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Jul 16, 2014 6:28 AM
@sam_amick: Lance Stephenson will sign a 3-year, $27 million deal with Charlotte, I can confirm. Third year team option. @rick_bonnell first.
Jul 16, 2014 6:28am
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Jul 16, 2014 7:58 AM
Craft would be a top 5 defender in the league but he'd be bottom 5 in offensive anything. No way he makes a team.
Jul 16, 2014 7:58am
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Jul 16, 2014 8:07 AM
I think Craft could be a niche defender, but automatically top 5? I doubt it. However, it's a specialty league. I can see him latching on somewhere if there's a coach that's infatuated with his one skill. If anything, maybe just having him around to really push around a starting PG who struggles with a very physical and "dirty" defender.
Jul 16, 2014 8:07am
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Jul 16, 2014 8:36 AM
Azubuike24;1636549 wrote:I think Craft could be a niche defender, but automatically top 5? I doubt it. However, it's a specialty league. I can see him latching on somewhere if there's a coach that's infatuated with his one skill. If anything, maybe just having him around to really push around a starting PG who struggles with a very physical and "dirty" defender.
Top 5.
Jul 16, 2014 8:36am
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Jul 16, 2014 9:13 AM
sleeper;1636553 wrote:Top 5.
Top 26.
Jul 16, 2014 9:13am
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Jul 16, 2014 9:51 AM
wildcats20;1636541 wrote:@sam_amick: Lance Stephenson will sign a 3-year, $27 million deal with Charlotte, I can confirm. Third year team option. @rick_bonnell first.
Pacers window closing?
Jul 16, 2014 9:51am
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Jul 16, 2014 10:00 AM
Kerr could just be blowing smoke, but from all his comments about Craft he seems to really like him. Warriors don't need him for offense, they have plenty. There have been guys before who are 0 threat offensively and still made a living in the NBA due to their rebounding/defense. Hopefully, Craft could be another.
Jul 16, 2014 10:00am
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Jul 16, 2014 1:07 PM
Top 5? Id take Beverly, Paul, Iggy, Jimmy Butler and Mike Conley and thats just guards.
Jul 16, 2014 1:07pm
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Jul 16, 2014 1:08 PM
wildcats20;1636541 wrote:@sam_amick: Lance Stephenson will sign a 3-year, $27 million deal with Charlotte, I can confirm. Third year team option. @rick_bonnell first.
Thats a big blow for Indiana. Although he was a headcase, he was an excellent all around player for them.
Jul 16, 2014 1:08pm
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Jul 16, 2014 1:19 PM
KB0938;1636622 wrote:Top 5? Id take Beverly, Paul, Iggy, Jimmy Butler and Mike Conley and thats just guards.
Craft is way better than all of these guards. Joke of a list.
Jul 16, 2014 1:19pm
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Jul 16, 2014 1:20 PM
sleeper;1636625 wrote:Craft is way better than all of these guards. Joke of a list.
Lol right
Jul 16, 2014 1:20pm
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Jul 16, 2014 1:25 PM
Maybe that'll be good for the Pacers to get him out of there. Who knows, he could have been a huge reason for their choke job last season.
Jul 16, 2014 1:25pm
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Jul 16, 2014 2:04 PM
Craft a top 5 defender in the NBA right now? There's no way. Top 5 on ball defender okay maybe, but that's still a huge stretch. Top 5 overall defender? Not a fucking chance.
Jul 16, 2014 2:04pm
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Jul 16, 2014 2:10 PM
SportsAndLady;1636650 wrote:Craft a top 5 defender in the NBA right now? There's no way. Top 5 on ball defender okay maybe, but that's still a huge stretch. Top 5 overall defender? Not a fucking chance.
What would differentiate him from being top 5 on ball but not top 5 overall defender in your opinion? He is very good off the ball in help situations, gets hands on balls and take charges.
Jul 16, 2014 2:10pm
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Jul 16, 2014 2:16 PM
Hed have to prove he COULD do it to NBA guards, not just B1G 10 opponents and summer league players(I know thats not his fault he hasnt faced them). Then I might be willing to say he could be top 5, but until then ill take the proven guards I listed and their defense over his
Jul 16, 2014 2:16pm
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Jul 16, 2014 2:34 PM
sleeper;1636553 wrote:Top 5.
Rotinaj;1636554 wrote:Top 26.

I'm sure he wouldn't mind being considered a top 40 right now, as long as he makes a roster.
Jul 16, 2014 2:34pm
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Jul 16, 2014 5:06 PM
robj55;1636655 wrote:What would differentiate him from being top 5 on ball but not top 5 overall defender in your opinion? He is very good off the ball in help situations, gets hands on balls and take charges.
Because he can't guard someone over 6'7". To me being a top overall defender is a combination of skills + ability to defend multiple positions.
Jul 16, 2014 5:06pm
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Jul 16, 2014 6:38 PM
sleeper;1636625 wrote:Craft is way better than all of these guards. Joke of a list.
Mike Conley may be better, he did go to Ohio State after all.
Jul 16, 2014 6:38pm
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Jul 16, 2014 10:28 PM
Craft won't be making any team. People need to stop talking about it. I watched him with the Sixers in the Orlando summer league and he was absolutely horrible. I watched part of the GSW/Lakers game last night, and he looked like he has settled some, but nowhere near what he needs to be.
Jul 16, 2014 10:28pm
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Jul 16, 2014 11:18 PM
Terry_Tate;1636718 wrote:Mike Conley may be better, he did go to Ohio State after all.
Mike Conley is a top 5 PG but Craft would be a better defender.
Jul 16, 2014 11:18pm