sleeper;1629878 wrote:Don't really care for either. I think Jason Derulo is better than Jackson ever was; Jackson just has the first mover advantage.

Mohican00;1629922 wrote:Jason Derulo? Isn't that that ****** who sings his name all the fucking time?

I'm not really a fan of Michael Jackson, but if I were to try devalue others' opinions of him I'd use someone other than a B-rate version of Usher

raiderbuck;1629933 wrote:I can't tell what's worse...the fact that you said Derulo is better than MJ, or the fact that you admit to listening to Jason Derulo.

cruiser_96;1629918 wrote:Sleeper, you tool! Michael Jackson was sponsored by Pepsi! NOT COKE!!!!!!!!!! Like, duh!

You're the Pepsi generation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po0jY4WvCIc

sleeper;1629944 wrote: If Jackson were born in this era, he would be singing karaoke at some shitty bar on the East side of DC for the rest of his life. Can we all just grow up and admit his music is average at best? His shit reminds me of some boring Great Depression movie that your grandparents talk about all the time as being so great, and then you finally watch it and realize its black and white and there are no words.

sleeper;1629944 wrote: Can we all just grow up and admit his music is average at best?

vball10set;1629957 wrote:lol, does this also include Elvis and The Beatles? I'm sure you can make the case that these singers/bands weren't technically as talented as others, but they were trailblazers, setting the tone for music moving forward. How many singers/bands profess they owe who and what they are to these performers? I'd venture to say quite a few.

Mohican00;1629960 wrote:So in other words, stop liking things I don't like.

sleeper;1629961 wrote:Call them trailblazers but let's stop pretending their music is 'good'. I'm sure when color TV's first came out people were saying they were trailblazers but no one would dare say those TVs are 'good' compared to the TVs today. The only difference with people is the emotion involved which we know from previous discussion is entirely irrational and has no basis in reality.

sleeper;1629962 wrote:The reality is people that like Jackson's music only like it because they were indoctrinated at young age that these musicians were somehow special. This occurs in other facets of life as well and is completely normal. However, realistically, if you took children from a remote village in Africa and had them listen to Jackson's music and Derulo's music, $100 says almost none of them would prefer old boring music.

vball10set;1629964 wrote:Do you ever stop and read what you post? You do realize whatever we have today is a direct result of what we had yesterday (metaphorically speaking), so it stands to reason music/technology, etc. will be better, especially in the eyes of our youth. This is all they know, and until they get older, they'll never fully appreciate what came before them....but you already knew that.

sleeper;1629962 wrote:The reality is people that like Jackson's music only like it because they were indoctrinated at young age that these musicians were somehow special. This occurs in other facets of life as well and is completely normal. However, realistically, if you took children from a remote village in Africa and had them listen to Jackson's music and Derulo's music, $100 says almost none of them would prefer old boring music.

sleeper;1629965 wrote:Do you appreciate the mud huts that people used to live in or do accept that current modern housing technology is far superior and preferable?

vball10set;1629976 wrote:I rest my case.

Mohican00;1629977 wrote:how the fuck did you guys end up on mud huts? lol

Mohican00;1629977 wrote:how the fuck did you guys end up on mud huts? lol

Heretic;1629984 wrote:It's a Sleeper discussion. There are no limits to how off-track those can get.

Mohican00;1629975 wrote:I have no issues with questioning the classic status bygone works but you have to be able to at least quantify why it's overrated. Throwing out a run-of-the-mill R&B artist and stating he is better than a beloved pop icon because he dances better or makes better music isn't convincing at all and does nothing to make even an impartial Jackson listener see it differently. Both are songwriters but at the very least I recognize MJ's Bad generated 5 consecutive #1 singles and that Derulo has had five top 5 singles to date. Citing indoctrinated young minds is a pretty flimsy approach to devaluing something you simply do not like.

Tiernan;1629993 wrote:Michael Jackson never made a single recording worthy of a Tiernan road trip replay. Dude was the most overrated artist in music history.

sleeper;1629998 wrote:I challenge people to listen to Thriller and tell me that's a good song. It's terrible. I can't think of one song that I would actually enjoy listening to from MJ.

rmolin73;1630014 wrote:Lol Jason Derulo. I think I've thrashed sleeper in this argument before. Derulo is pretty much a weak copy of MJ and you wont remember him in 10 years.

sleeper;1630017 wrote:Yeah, we wouldn't be hearing about MJ either if he didn't rape a bunch of kids. Tell me more about how Thriller is a good song; its trash at best.

sleeper;1630017 wrote:Yeah, we wouldn't be hearing about MJ either if he didn't rape a bunch of kids. Tell me more about how Thriller is a good song; its trash at best.

vball10set;1630021 wrote:Even you aren't dumb enough to believe this...right???