ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jun 17, 2014 8:30am
Still not over how excited I am. A win vs Portgual and we could legit win the group.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 17, 2014 8:36am
Don't get ahead of yourself.ohiobucks1;1627119 wrote:Still not over how excited I am. A win vs Portgual and we could legit win the group.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 17, 2014 9:11am
We would have to beat Germany, which isnt happening.ohiobucks1;1627119 wrote:Still not over how excited I am. A win vs Portgual and we could legit win the group.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jun 17, 2014 9:21am
As long as we at least tie Portugal now(and assuming Germany beats Ghana obviously) we'll be sitting pretty good correct? We win that one and it's a lock that we're in, but assuming we tie them all that needs to happen then is we have to hope they don't kill Ghana and we don't get killed by Germany and we're sitting good from what I can tell right?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jun 17, 2014 9:23am
Not concerned about winning the group, just getting out of it's good enough for me.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 17, 2014 9:23am
Pretty much. A tie/win vs. Portugal and we are in. A loss to Portugal would mean we would have to beat or tie Germany to have a shot(and with Portugal's goal differential in the tank, a good shot).Terry_Tate;1627137 wrote:As long as we at least tie Portugal now(and assuming Germany beats Ghana obviously) we'll be sitting pretty good correct? We win that one and it's a lock that we're in, but assuming we tie them all that needs to happen then is we have to hope they don't kill Ghana and we don't get killed by Germany and we're sitting good from what I can tell right?
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Jun 17, 2014 9:23am
Yes if we tie with Portugal and don't lose bad to Germany we should make it in. We are +5 on goal differential to Portugal right now.Terry_Tate;1627137 wrote:As long as we at least tie Portugal now(and assuming Germany beats Ghana obviously) we'll be sitting pretty good correct? We win that one and it's a lock that we're in, but assuming we tie them all that needs to happen then is we have to hope they don't kill Ghana and we don't get killed by Germany and we're sitting good from what I can tell right?
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jun 17, 2014 9:34am
sleeper;1627140 wrote:Pretty much. A tie/win vs. Portugal and we are in. A loss to Portugal would mean we would have to beat or tie Germany to have a shot(and with Portugal's goal differential in the tank, a good shot).
Thank you. That's what I thought, but hadn't seen the exact tiebreakers and everything. Hopefully Jozy can be back for Sunday so the US can be at 100%.Ytowngirlinfla;1627141 wrote:Yes if we tie with Portugal and don't lose bad to Germany we should make it in. We are +5 on goal differential to Portugal right now.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jun 17, 2014 10:11am
Jozy isn't going to be back. He might be out the whole tourney. I've done a similar thing while playing and there was 0% chance I was back in a week. 2-4 is way more likely, and even then he might just re pull it.Terry_Tate;1627144 wrote:Thank you. That's what I thought, but hadn't seen the exact tiebreakers and everything. Hopefully Jozy can be back for Sunday so the US can be at 100%.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jun 17, 2014 10:51am
Definitely not optimistic about it. Think Aron Johannsson will get the start or will they go with Wondo next match? I'm not a knowledgeable soccer guy but seemed like Johannsson was pretty underwhelming overall yesterday. In games I've watched it seems like Wondo has a knack for getting things to happen and creating a spark, though that could be because the competition wasn't very good.ohiobucks1;1627151 wrote:Jozy isn't going to be back. He might be out the whole tourney. I've done a similar thing while playing and there was 0% chance I was back in a week. 2-4 is way more likely, and even then he might just re pull it.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 17, 2014 10:58am
Aron wasn't great but he also wasn't put into a great situation. He doesn't play well with his back toward goal (something that Jozy does really well), but Wondo isn't going to do that well either. I think there needs to be a change in strategy up top to play to their strengths with Jozy out for the rest of the time. Aron plays reasonably well with the ball at his feet, just doesn't have the strength to hold guys off on his own.Terry_Tate;1627162 wrote:Definitely not optimistic about it. Think Aron Johannsson will get the start or will they go with Wondo next match? I'm not a knowledgeable soccer guy but seemed like Johannsson was pretty underwhelming overall yesterday. In games I've watched it seems like Wondo has a knack for getting things to happen and creating a spark, though that could be because the competition wasn't very good.
That said, I think Aron gets the call but generally the strategy shifts so he's not in a "hold the ball while guys catch up" role.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Jun 17, 2014 11:55am
They were talking last night on the ESPN World Cup show that they may move Dempsey up front. I don't see Jozy returning at all. Just hoping it's nothing serious like a tear because he'd miss significant time this upcoming season.gorocks99;1627165 wrote:Aron wasn't great but he also wasn't put into a great situation. He doesn't play well with his back toward goal (something that Jozy does really well), but Wondo isn't going to do that well either. I think there needs to be a change in strategy up top to play to their strengths with Jozy out for the rest of the time. Aron plays reasonably well with the ball at his feet, just doesn't have the strength to hold guys off on his own.
That said, I think Aron gets the call but generally the strategy shifts so he's not in a "hold the ball while guys catch up" role.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 17, 2014 12:04pm
US-Ghana had a 7.0 overnight rating on ESPN; NBA Finals Game 5 on ABC had a 6.8 for comparison. ESPN rating also doesn't include estimated 5.2m watching on Univision and WatchESPN.
2nd-highest rated group stage match for the US ever (behind only US-England in 2010, which was played on a Saturday on ABC).
http://www.mlssoccer.com/worldcup/2014/news/article/2014/06/17/world-cup-ratings-are-usa-ghana-second-highest-group-stage-match-ever-us
2nd-highest rated group stage match for the US ever (behind only US-England in 2010, which was played on a Saturday on ABC).
http://www.mlssoccer.com/worldcup/2014/news/article/2014/06/17/world-cup-ratings-are-usa-ghana-second-highest-group-stage-match-ever-us
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jun 17, 2014 12:05pm
I like Johannson, but would rather him come in off the bench later and start Wando. I feel like he just makes more things happen. Kind of like Zusi, wish he could get in more. Also, how is there not another defender in the entire country better than Beasley? He is embarrassing.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 17, 2014 12:14pm
Wow, Algeria up on Belgium.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Jun 17, 2014 12:21pm
The problem with Beasley is he plays midfield for his club and has all his career. For him to make the US team again they moved him to left back. He's still got speed but it always looks like he's not comfortable playing that position when we play the big boys.iclfan2;1627177 wrote:I like Johannson, but would rather him come in off the bench later and start Wando. I feel like he just makes more things happen. Kind of like Zusi, wish he could get in more. Also, how is there not another defender in the entire country better than Beasley? He is embarrassing.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 17, 2014 1:06pm
Huge save from Algeria.
Side note, loss from Belgium here could affect US. H1 plays G2 in round of 16, would rather it be Russia than Belgium.
Side note, loss from Belgium here could affect US. H1 plays G2 in round of 16, would rather it be Russia than Belgium.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 17, 2014 1:09pm
And of course sideshow bob puts it in
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jun 17, 2014 1:10pm
damnitgorocks99;1627190 wrote:And of course sideshow bob puts it in
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Jun 17, 2014 1:16pm
Total waste and it sickens me United signed that douche. He did nothing all season.gorocks99;1627190 wrote:And of course sideshow bob puts it in
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Jun 17, 2014 1:16pm
I'll be an Akron homer but I'd like Deandre Yedlin to get some time. He started a little rocky but came around in the warmup matches. Doubt they throw him into the fire with Portugal and Germany next.Ytowngirlinfla;1627180 wrote:The problem with Beasley is he plays midfield for his club and has all his career. For him to make the US team again they moved him to left back. He's still got speed but it always looks like he's not comfortable playing that position when we play the big boys.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Jun 17, 2014 1:20pm
I like Yedlin too he's super speedy but his defense isn't as strong as Beasley and I think that's why he doesn't beat him out yet. But I see Yedlin improving a ton over the new few years and having a bright future. Hoping maybe he goes and plays in Europe.mucalum49;1627194 wrote:I'll be an Akron homer but I'd like Deandre Yedlin to get some time. He started a little rocky but came around in the warmup matches. Doubt they throw him into the fire with Portugal and Germany next.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 17, 2014 1:59pm
Beasley is a must, for the simple fact out CB play 100x better with him next to them. Whether it's communication, trust, spacing etc, it all works better when Bealsey is at LB. Of course, if Besler can't go, who knows lol.
I want AJ to play up top from the start and have a different approach. Even Bradley said the quick goal completely altered how they attacked. Would like to see what he can do when he isn't in a holding position...a position really only Jozy can play, and why it was so crucial for him to be on form.
I want AJ to play up top from the start and have a different approach. Even Bradley said the quick goal completely altered how they attacked. Would like to see what he can do when he isn't in a holding position...a position really only Jozy can play, and why it was so crucial for him to be on form.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jun 17, 2014 2:03pm
I'm interested to see what changes Jurgen makes. Dempsey up front with Johannson?
Jozy out makes me wish Gomez made the squad, big fan of his.
Jozy out makes me wish Gomez made the squad, big fan of his.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 17, 2014 2:25pm
Also, David Luiz is Sideshow Bob...NOT Marouane Fellaini.