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Apr 30, 2014 8:37 AM
A Colorado public school that has predominately Arabic students decided to Change God, to Allah in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Hilarity ensues..
Principal Tom Lopez denies any attempt to push an Islamic agenda, saying, “These students love this country. They were not being un-American in trying to do this. They believed they were accentuating the meaning of the words as spoken regularly in English.”
Many of the parents are upset specifically over the fact that the Arabic translation of the Pledge replaces “one nation under God” with “one nation under Allah.”
Some parents have even accused Principal Lopez of “pushing a Muslim Brotherhood agenda — to push Islam into the school.”
Lulz

http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/06/19192-high-school-students-read-pledge-in-arabic-one-nation-under-allah/


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US High School Recites Pledge In Arabic: “One Nation Under Allah”
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Apr 30, 2014 8:37am
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salto

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Apr 30, 2014 10:13 AM
Legalize pot and look what happens.
Apr 30, 2014 10:13am
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ernest_t_bass

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Apr 30, 2014 11:14 AM
When the pledge was written, to which "god" was it referring? The baptist god? The catholic god? Allah?

While I think this is incredibly stupid, I can unfortunately see both sides of this.
Apr 30, 2014 11:14am
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Apr 30, 2014 11:19 AM
ernest_t_bass;1611181 wrote:When the pledge was written, to which "god" was it referring? The baptist god? The catholic god? Allah?

While I think this is incredibly stupid, I can unfortunately see both sides of this.
The original, written by Francis Bellamy in 1892, did not have "under god" in it.

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

The phrase "under God" was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance June 14, 1954, by a joint resolution of Congress. You can thank a lawyer from Illinois and the KOC for getting that started
Apr 30, 2014 11:19am
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Apr 30, 2014 11:24 AM
ernest_t_bass;1611181 wrote:
While I think this is incredibly stupid, I can unfortunately see both sides of this.
This is why all religion should be out of public schools. If you have to referee the content, somebody is always going to get pissed.

Wait until someone want to invoke the name of Satan.
Apr 30, 2014 11:24am
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Apr 30, 2014 12:59 PM
I laugh at their "reasoning" as it just being the Arabic translation when in fact they only changed one word. I can see that reason MAYBE if they said the whole pledge in Arabic, but to only change the one word does send a "message" of some sort.

Now, is this worth being all up in arms about? Probably not, I would just have my kids go to a different school or tell them they should say the pledge the "right way" without changing the words.
Apr 30, 2014 12:59pm
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Apr 30, 2014 1:05 PM
Wow - such hurtful, divisive and offensive remarks, made in a public setting no less: they should be fined, banned from the school, and have their assets seized.
Apr 30, 2014 1:05pm
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Apr 30, 2014 1:08 PM
QuakerOats;1611242 wrote:Wow - such hurtful, divisive and offensive remarks, made in a public setting no less: they should be fined, banned from the school, and have their assets seized.
Is there a private entity that presides over the school that is having their bylaws violated?

However, had the government not caved in to the Knights of Columbus and inserted shit that doesn't belong in the pledge into it in the first place, this would not be an issue.

In closing, fucking Catholics.
Apr 30, 2014 1:08pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Apr 30, 2014 1:13 PM
Why don't they say it however they choose, and those of other faiths (or none) can say it the way they choose.
Apr 30, 2014 1:13pm
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Apr 30, 2014 1:18 PM
ts1227;1611243 wrote:Is there a private entity that presides over the school that is having their bylaws violated?

Do I really have to put in the sarcasm disclaimer when it is completely evident?
Apr 30, 2014 1:18pm
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Apr 30, 2014 1:22 PM
QuakerOats;1611248 wrote:Do I really have to put in the sarcasm disclaimer when it is completely evident?
Yes. Given your general ideology it wouldn't have been too far flung for you to have been serious there.
Apr 30, 2014 1:22pm
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Apr 30, 2014 1:43 PM
Even I know it is perfectly ok to slam Catholics and other Christians, but one negative blurb about Muslims or blacks and look out; the leftist, thought police mobs will destroy you.


The hypocrisy is immeasurable.
Apr 30, 2014 1:43pm
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Apr 30, 2014 2:10 PM
QuakerOats;1611263 wrote:The hypocrisy is immeasurable.
And? What's the issue?

I've never understood the hypocrisy argument as it extends in this situation with religion. Are Christians being fed to the lions in this country? Is Christianity as an established religious organization on the brink of collapse? Are people taking to the streets in droves to undermine the church's authority?


The only about it is that it's unfair. Yeah, life is unfair. Crying about it on an internet message board with tens of people won't make you feel any better.
Apr 30, 2014 2:10pm
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Apr 30, 2014 2:16 PM
Mohican00;1611280 wrote:Crying about it on an internet message board with tens of people
I think you're exaggerating a little, there.
Apr 30, 2014 2:16pm
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Apr 30, 2014 2:17 PM
Mohican00;1611280 wrote:Crying about it on an internet message board with tens of people won't make you feel any better.
I don't know about that. As much random crying about all the multiverse's horrible unfairnesses perpetrated against him and people like him as he does, it must have some sort of therapeutic value. A placebo effect, perhaps, but an effect nonetheless.
Apr 30, 2014 2:17pm
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Apr 30, 2014 2:23 PM
Heretic;1611288 wrote:A placebo effect, perhaps, but an effect nonetheless.
well it doesn't last very goddamn long
Apr 30, 2014 2:23pm
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Apr 30, 2014 2:25 PM
Mohican00;1611280 wrote:I've never understood the hypocrisy argument as it extends in this situation with religion..

Obviously.


We will continue to turn the other cheek.
Apr 30, 2014 2:25pm
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Apr 30, 2014 2:30 PM
Mohican00;1611292 wrote:well it doesn't last very goddamn long
Just like crack. You have to keep doing more and more and more and more and more.
Apr 30, 2014 2:30pm
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Apr 30, 2014 2:34 PM
QuakerOats;1611295 wrote:We will continue to turn the other cheek.
What's this "we" shit? You need to get with the program, fire up the that fucking airbrush gun
Apr 30, 2014 2:34pm
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May 1, 2014 12:24 AM
Newsflash. It's the same God
May 1, 2014 12:24am
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May 1, 2014 6:00 AM
Newsflash. There is no god.
May 1, 2014 6:00am
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steubbigred

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May 1, 2014 6:37 AM
isn't allah and god the same ?
May 1, 2014 6:37am
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May 1, 2014 1:34 PM
steubbigred;1611488 wrote:isn't allah and god the same ?
Yup. Jews, Christians, Muslims all have the same God lol
May 1, 2014 1:34pm
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steubbigred

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May 1, 2014 1:50 PM
Classyposter58;1611624 wrote:Yup. Jews, Christians, Muslims all have the same God lol
God is a general term. Some religions have several. I just ask isn't allah another word for god used by the muslim's?
Incidentally I don't like people changing words around to suit there religions or anything else. Not if favor of this behavior and it's probably only used to incite the atheist crowd.
May 1, 2014 1:50pm
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queencitybuckeye

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May 1, 2014 2:17 PM
steubbigred;1611625 wrote:God is a general term. Some religions have several. I just ask isn't allah another word for god used by the muslim's?
Incidentally I don't like people changing words around to suit there religions or anything else. Not if favor of this behavior and it's probably only used to incite the atheist crowd.
Then the "atheist crowd" (if they're so damn smart, shouldn't they get the i before e thing correct?) should grow thicker skin. As should those people of any religion when the atheists attempt to incite them.
May 1, 2014 2:17pm