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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
May 15, 2014 8:13am
another great interview on CNN and they are still showing it this morning.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 15, 2014 10:25am
Then why didn't he say "don't bring a guy to the game"?reclegend22;1616303 wrote:Won't be long now before ESPN replaces Linda Cohn with Mary Hart. That organization not only jumped the shark but the entire fucking ocean. I hate it and only watch live sporting events and 30 For 30s at this point, you know, actual sports-related programming.
As for Donald Sterling, I do want to comment on one thing regarding the infamous phone call. It's obvious that when Sterling commented that he did not want V. Stiviano to bring black guys to his games that he was speaking from a place of jealousy, and not a specific hatred of African American men. Simply put, Donald Sterling didn't want Magic Johnson's dick in the same building as his girlfriend (or Matt Kemp's, for that matter). Why Anderson Cooper and others can't wrap their heads around that is beyond me.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
May 15, 2014 2:59pm
Sterling is definitely racist, if not knowingly then subconsciously. In the same way that many people of that generation are. I'm not arguing that. I'm not exactly sure why he said "black guys" instead of just "guys" -- he claims that Stiviano constantly threatened to specifically bring "black guys" to his games, probably in an effort, at least as far as the phone call in question goes, to bait Sterling into the comments he made -- but it's inferred, at least IMO, that Sterling simply was jealous and didn't want Magic's illustrious dick anywhere near his girl.I Wear Pants;1616471 wrote:Then why didn't he say "don't bring a guy to the game"?
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 15, 2014 3:02pm
I fail to see where I should feel bad for the dude.reclegend22;1616662 wrote:Sterling is definitely racist, if not knowingly then subconsciously. In the same way that many people of that generation are. I'm not arguing that. I'm not exactly sure why he said "black guys" instead of just "guys" -- he claims that Stiviano constantly threatened to specifically bring "black guys" to his games, probably in an effort, at least as far as the phone call in question goes, to bait Sterling into the comments he made -- but it's inferred, at least IMO, that Sterling simply was jealous and didn't want Magic's illustrious dick anywhere near his girl.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
May 15, 2014 3:04pm
Never said you should.I Wear Pants;1616665 wrote:I fail to see where I should feel bad for the dude.
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
May 15, 2014 5:14pm
I enjoyed his rant on Majic Jackson.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
May 15, 2014 6:02pm
steubbigred;1616731 wrote:I enjoyed his rant on Majic Jackson.
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
May 15, 2014 7:36pm
LMAO!!Mohican00;1616738 wrote:
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
May 15, 2014 9:36pm
Out of 1000 people how many would keep there jobs if the media mobbed the recording of their private convos? I would not but I am one of the fewer on here who aren't without sin
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
May 15, 2014 9:56pm
Me neither. If I worked in the NBA and past conversations of mine with friends were released to the public, I'd be fined more than $2 million. While nobody but Donald Sterling knows what he really believes in his heart, I'm simply unwilling to vilify this guy as some kind of monster based on a 30 second window into his life.rydawg5;1616792 wrote:Out of 1000 people how many would keep there jobs if the media mobbed the recording of their private convos? I would not but I am one of the fewer on here who aren't without sin
Some of the comments he is alleged to have made regarding African Americans in the past are certainly unfortunate and wrong -- the guy is clearly guilty of certain prejudices, whether wittingly or not -- but most everyone has uttered something terribly regrettable in the privacy of their homes at one point or another, for reasons that aren't always explainable.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 15, 2014 9:56pm
Sterling won't pay fine, plans to sue
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10939318/los-angeles-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-pay-fine-sue-nba-according-sources
Get your popcorn ready. I love it!
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10939318/los-angeles-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-pay-fine-sue-nba-according-sources
Get your popcorn ready. I love it!
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
May 15, 2014 10:01pm
This is gonna drag out for years
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
May 16, 2014 5:10am
True. Fact is most people in good positions would be gone.rydawg5;1616792 wrote:Out of 1000 people how many would keep there jobs if the media mobbed the recording of their private convos? I would not but I am one of the fewer on here who aren't without sin
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
May 16, 2014 5:10am
Yep this is going to be something to watch.sleeper;1616797 wrote:Sterling won't pay fine, plans to sue
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10939318/los-angeles-clippers-owner-donald-sterling-pay-fine-sue-nba-according-sources
Get your popcorn ready. I love it!
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 16, 2014 6:15am
I am perfect and would never say anything that would possibly be offensive. ever.rydawg5;1616792 wrote:Out of 1000 people how many would keep there jobs if the media mobbed the recording of their private convos? I would not but I am one of the fewer on here who aren't without sin
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
May 16, 2014 9:19am
Never claimed anything close to that, just that I've never made a racist statement over the phone or anywhere else. That you clearly have is your problem, not mine.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1616831 wrote:I am perfect and would never say anything that would possibly be offensive. ever.
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Heretic
Posts: 18,820
May 16, 2014 10:05am
That's good -- especially since it doesn't take more than a few seconds of research to find out that Sterling has far more to answer for than one taped conversation. The real question would be why David Stern's smug-ass self never decided to do anything about that gigantic embarrassment to the league when his discriminatory housing practices were getting him major fines.reclegend22;1616796 wrote:Me neither. If I worked in the NBA and past conversations of mine with friends were released to the public, I'd be fined more than $2 million. While nobody but Donald Sterling knows what he really believes in his heart, I'm simply unwilling to vilify this guy as some kind of monster based on a 30 second window into his life.
Some of the comments he is alleged to have made regarding African Americans in the past are certainly unfortunate and wrong -- the guy is clearly guilty of certain prejudices, whether wittingly or not -- but most everyone has uttered something terribly regrettable in the privacy of their homes at one point or another, for reasons that aren't always explainable.
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MontyBrunswick
May 16, 2014 10:27am
I'm betting he dies within a year or two. Isn't he pushing 80?Trueblue23;1616801 wrote:This is gonna drag out for years
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
May 16, 2014 10:40am
I don't blame him. You can't take away something someone owns because he's racist
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
May 16, 2014 11:02am
If a contract someone enters into says you can, you can.Classyposter58;1616909 wrote:I don't blame him. You can't take away something someone owns because he's racist
Your consistency is impressive. You're almost always wrong.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 16, 2014 11:38am
Except it doesn't which is why the NBA owners haven't voted on it yet. The NBA can ban Sterling and fine him but they can only force a sale of a franchise for a limited number of reasons(none of which Sterling violated).queencitybuckeye;1616919 wrote:If a contract someone enters into says you can, you can.
Your consistency is impressive. You're almost always wrong.
It'll be an interesting legal battle to say the least.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
May 16, 2014 11:55am
It almost without question doesn't specifically mention racism but a broader description of behavior that a court may or may not rule applies here. Which is why my post started with "if", and why Classy's post is wrong, as usual.sleeper;1616930 wrote:Except it doesn't which is why the NBA owners haven't voted on it yet.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 16, 2014 12:21pm
Sure. But its no slam dunk that he's going to be ousted as owner like everyone thinks. I think the owners are going to eventually vote to oust him but Sterling has plenty of tactics that could keep him as owner for a long long time.queencitybuckeye;1616937 wrote:It almost without question doesn't specifically mention racism but a broader description of behavior that a court may or may not rule applies here. Which is why my post started with "if", and why Classy's post is wrong, as usual.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 16, 2014 5:01pm
I think ultimately they want him gone, and he wants to pick who he passes the team on to (probably family, and probably bequeathed). So basically figure out succession and everyone is happy and wins.sleeper;1616946 wrote:Sure. But its no slam dunk that he's going to be ousted as owner like everyone thinks. I think the owners are going to eventually vote to oust him but Sterling has plenty of tactics that could keep him as owner for a long long time.
The alternative is the old bastard ties this up in courts for years until he dies.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
May 17, 2014 12:26am
I'm fed up with these people who actually think their "boycott" is doing anything.
If anything, many of them are continuing to actually make Sterling speak truth -- a true boycott isn't turning your shirts inside out, putting them at halfcourt, wearing black socks, or whatever crap. Boycott him by not taking his money. Boycott him by taking his money and setting up minority scholarships or towards minority organizations. UCLA "boycotts" by turning away $3m...show Sterling what he's worth, use that money to setup minority scholarships!
Noooooo...everyone will continue to take his paycheck he gives them. They have no problem taking his money. If he was as worthless as what people are calling him, treating him, and labeling him, prove it.
If anything, many of them are continuing to actually make Sterling speak truth -- a true boycott isn't turning your shirts inside out, putting them at halfcourt, wearing black socks, or whatever crap. Boycott him by not taking his money. Boycott him by taking his money and setting up minority scholarships or towards minority organizations. UCLA "boycotts" by turning away $3m...show Sterling what he's worth, use that money to setup minority scholarships!
Noooooo...everyone will continue to take his paycheck he gives them. They have no problem taking his money. If he was as worthless as what people are calling him, treating him, and labeling him, prove it.