Midstate01
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 6:42pm
                            
                        
                                Just saw philly has upped the deal to 3,10, 32, next years 1 and Thad young.
                            
                        Midstate01
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 6:42pm
                            
                        
                                That's a lot
                            
                        Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 6:42pm
                            
                        
                                That's a toughy. If wiggins is a franchise guy though you take him. Depends on their evaluation of him. I wouldn't trade lbj/durrant for 5 1st rounders.
                            
                        Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 6:53pm
                            
                        
                                Chris Sheridan     ‏@sheridanhoops                          57s                                  BTW, check out our last Mock. Draft guru, @Probballdraft, believes #Cavs will trade the pick. GM Griffin just told @ESPNAndyKatz the same.
                            
                        Benny The Jet
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:03pm
                            
                        That's a no-brainer. Pull the trigger now!Midstate01;1630521 wrote:Just saw philly has upped the deal to 3,10, 32, next years 1 and Thad young.
robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:08pm
                            
                        Seriously, this draft is deep, you could get three long term starters and possible stars out of that deal.Benny The Jet;1630530 wrote:That's a no-brainer. Pull the trigger now!
Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:10pm
                            
                        
                                If that Philly offer trade is legit, you've gotta take it.
                            
                        robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:12pm
                            
                        
                                Philly apparently really wants Wiggins, that's way too much to give up to move up 2 spots in the draft.
                            
                        Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:16pm
                            
                        I disagree.HighRoller74;1630532 wrote:If that Philly offer trade is legit, you've gotta take it.
Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:21pm
                            
                        If Cleveland was 1 player away I'd agree. But the Cavs have at least 3 question marks on the starting lineup.Commander of Awesome;1630534 wrote:I disagree.
Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:21pm
                            
                        
                                WIIIIIIIIGGGGGGIIIIINNNNNNSSSSSSSSS
                            
                        Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:22pm
                            
                        In the NBA, LBJ took a bunch of bums (Wade/Bosh) to the finals. 1 player makes all the difference. Wiggins > a bunch of bench players.HighRoller74;1630536 wrote:If Cleveland was 1 player away I'd agree. But the Cavs have at least 3 question marks on the starting lineup.
Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:23pm
                            
                        
                                Wiggins isn't LeBron.
                            
                        robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:24pm
                            
                        Not even close, but he has a lot of potential. Parker was more NBA ready.HighRoller74;1630539 wrote:Wiggins isn't LeBron.
Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:24pm
                            
                        
                                david b. thorpe     ‏@coachthorpe                          36s                                  Don't forget; Irving, Bennett, Wiggins all have all-star talent. Need coaching and structure. But the talent is there.
                            
                        Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:24pm
                            
                        
                                Wiggins is the pick.  Good pick.  I'm happy with him.
                            
                        lhslep134
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:24pm
                            
                        
                                so you think he stays a Cav?
                            
                        Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:24pm
                            
                        His defense is even worse than Kyrie. Can't have that at the #1 overall pick.robj55;1630541 wrote:Not even close, but he has a lot of potential. Parker was more NBA ready.
Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:26pm
                            
                        Chad Fail ‏@chadfordinsider 1m Source: The Cavs will keep Andrew Wiggins. They did not draft him to trade him.lhslep134;1630544 wrote:so you think he stays a Cav?
robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:26pm
                            
                        Defense can be coached, Wiggins isn't smooth and doesn't have a natural feel on the offensive end. Not sure he has a killer instinct either to want to be the best player on the floor. Still think he will be very good, a lot of potential.Commander of Awesome;1630545 wrote:His defense is even worse than Kyrie. Can't have that at the #1 overall pick.
Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:29pm
                            
                        
                                Be fun to find out how it all plays out. Wiggins was who I wanted once Embiid was injured, so I'm happy with how it turned out.
                            
                        Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:30pm
                            
                        
                                     Adam Schein     ‏@AdamSchein                          5m                                  Cavs get it right, taking best player in draft. Imagine that. What a concept! Good work.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                vball10set
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:31pm
                            
                        
                                Happy with the pick.
                            
                        GOONx19
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:31pm
                            
                        You are a fucking moron. This is the exact opposite of the truth.robj55;1630548 wrote:Defense can be coached, Wiggins isn't smooth and doesn't have a natural feel on the offensive end. Not sure he has a killer instinct either to want to be the best player on the floor. Still think he will be very good, a lot of potential.
robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 26, 2014 7:32pm
                            
                        He should be very good, not sure if he is that elite franchise changer but he definitely is better than Alonzo Gee lolCommander of Awesome;1630549 wrote:Be fun to find out how it all plays out. Wiggins was who I wanted once Embiid was injured, so I'm happy with how it turned out.