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May 21, 2014 6:09 PM
Yeah I agree...not a fan of 1 year stop gaps. Especially for players where you'd have to give up a ton to get them.
May 21, 2014 6:09pm
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May 21, 2014 6:16 PM
My guess is love would be a sign and trade.
May 21, 2014 6:16pm
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May 21, 2014 6:25 PM
I don't want love. Always injured, empty stats. Doesn't win shit. Hell even bosh made the playoffs before hanging on lbj's jock.
May 21, 2014 6:25pm
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May 21, 2014 6:26 PM
Automatik;1618491 wrote:I wouldn't want Embiid at #1. Go Wiggins or Parker. I don't think you can go wrong with either.

An inexperienced big man with back issues already....no thanks.
This.
May 21, 2014 6:26pm
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May 21, 2014 6:32 PM
Want Jabari Parker.
May 21, 2014 6:32pm
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May 21, 2014 6:58 PM
Who are the big 4, S&L, just curious? I only see 3, to be honest. I see a (relatively) big drop off after Embiid, Wiggins and Parker. Though, the next 5 are all still better than last years top players lol.
May 21, 2014 6:58pm
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May 21, 2014 6:59 PM
Exum
May 21, 2014 6:59pm
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May 21, 2014 7:01 PM
I'm still going to be hopeful for wiggins. Even though I could probably be convince about someone else. I watched a Tok of Kansas games last year just because I wanted to watch wiggins. He definitely at more times where he seemed lost or just not real involved than he did times where he took over. BUT he always played defense and then every once in a while he'd get hot and when he did he looked like an all star. I think we didn't see the real wiggins because of the system at Kansas.
May 21, 2014 7:01pm
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May 21, 2014 7:01 PM
Exum is not a top 4 player. It's the big 3(and IMO the big 2). I want Embid.
May 21, 2014 7:01pm
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May 21, 2014 7:03 PM
sleeper;1618627 wrote:Exum is not a top 4 player. It's the big 3(and IMO the big 2). I want Embid.
Have you seen him play?

I have only seen clips, but from what I hear of the kid is he is every bit as good as the top players of this draft.
May 21, 2014 7:03pm
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May 21, 2014 7:05 PM
Midstate01;1618626 wrote:I'm still going to be hopeful for wiggins. Even though I could probably be convince about someone else. I watched a Tok of Kansas games last year just because I wanted to watch wiggins. He definitely at more times where he seemed lost or just not real involved than he did times where he took over. BUT he always played defense and then every once in a while he'd get hot and when he did he looked like an all star. I think we didn't see the real wiggins because of the system at Kansas.
Your last sentence is probably true.

Self's system does not allow for a 25 a game scorer every game.
May 21, 2014 7:05pm
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May 21, 2014 7:05 PM
vball10set;1618619 wrote:Want Jabari Parker.
Wouldnt call it a bad pick, but I'd rather Wiggins who enjoys defense and had a "bad" year putting up pretty incredible stats as a freshman. I know he disappeared, but you could see how amazing he is going to be if he ever realizes he IS the best player on the court he will be special.
May 21, 2014 7:05pm
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May 21, 2014 7:06 PM
SportsAndLady;1618628 wrote:Have you seen him play?

I have only seen clips, but from what I hear of the kid is he is every bit as good as the top players of this draft.
Dominated the best in the world for his age group. He is special. But you don't draft him unless you let Kyrie leave...
May 21, 2014 7:06pm
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May 21, 2014 8:06 PM
Laley23;1618630 wrote:Wouldnt call it a bad pick, but I'd rather Wiggins who enjoys defense and had a "bad" year putting up pretty incredible stats as a freshman. I know he disappeared, but you could see how amazing he is going to be if he ever realizes he IS the best player on the court he will be special.
This is just another reason I'm sold on Wiggins. He was considered to have had a bad year, but I'd take his stats any day.
May 21, 2014 8:06pm
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May 21, 2014 8:07 PM
Kyrie, waiters, wiggins, and hopefully a big free agent or a couple solid pieces. That's a pretty nice nucleus that really just needs a big man
May 21, 2014 8:07pm
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May 21, 2014 8:34 PM
Commander of Awesome;1618617 wrote:I don't want love. Always injured, empty stats. Doesn't win shit. Hell even bosh made the playoffs before hanging on lbj's jock.
So you want to trade Kyrie? Always injured, empty stats, doesn't win shit...
May 21, 2014 8:34pm
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May 21, 2014 8:37 PM
I'd kill for Love, but I want him for more than one or even two years.

Thought of this little scenario today: Would you be okay trading the #1 pick for Kevin Love if we only had him for one year and it resulted in a championship?
May 21, 2014 8:37pm
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May 21, 2014 8:39 PM
Pick6;1618651 wrote:I'd kill for Love, but I want him for more than one or even two years.

Thought of this little scenario today: Would you be okay trading the #1 pick for Kevin Love if we only had him for one year and it resulted in a championship?
Yes, obviously..?
May 21, 2014 8:39pm
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May 21, 2014 8:39 PM
Mulva;1618650 wrote:So you want to trade Kyrie? Always injured, empty stats, doesn't win shit...
All star MVP! (Lol jk) no thanks. I'll keep him. Also wouldn't be trading the #1 overall pick for him. I wouldn't trade the #1 pick for anything not named lbj/Kevin durrant.
May 21, 2014 8:39pm
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May 21, 2014 8:49 PM
Commander of Awesome;1618654 wrote:All star MVP! (Lol jk) no thanks. I'll keep him. Also wouldn't be trading the #1 overall pick for him. I wouldn't trade the #1 pick for anything not named lbj/Kevin durrant.
Fair enough. I think that's overvaluing the #1 pick a little bit. I'm not big on a Love trade either, though. Don't see him re-signing here.
May 21, 2014 8:49pm
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May 21, 2014 8:50 PM
Weren't Wiggins and Parker essentially referred to as the "next LBJ" coming out of HS or am I crazy here. Im not.
May 21, 2014 8:50pm
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May 21, 2014 8:52 PM
They'll both be very good IMO. Too 3 prospects in this draft are best since kd/oden.
May 21, 2014 8:52pm
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May 21, 2014 8:58 PM
Commander of Awesome;1618654 wrote:All star MVP! (Lol jk) no thanks. I'll keep him. Also wouldn't be trading the #1 overall pick for him. I wouldn't trade the #1 pick for anything not named lbj/Kevin durrant.
Why not? Neither Embid, Wiggins or Parker are even close to a Lebron or a Durant, not franchise changers.
May 21, 2014 8:58pm
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May 21, 2014 9:00 PM
robj55;1618661 wrote:Why not? Neither Embid, Wiggins or Parker are even close to a Lebron or a Durant, not franchise changers.
I don't agree.
May 21, 2014 9:00pm
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May 21, 2014 9:01 PM
robj55;1618661 wrote:Neither Embid, Wiggins or Parker are even close to a Lebron or a Durant, not franchise changers.
Sure about that?
May 21, 2014 9:01pm