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Apr 23, 2014 8:32 PM
Am I the only person who has no idea why pine tar is illegal? It doesn't change the pitch. It only gives a pitcher better grip. Batters are allowed to use it or a glove for better grip on the bat. Why can't pitchers have better grip. And yes I know they have rosin but that's not doing anything when it's cold.

Regardless it's the rule and he deserved to be ejected. Though it's walking a fine line for a team to challenge it, since it's probably 100% that one of their pitchers does it too. Though hides it much better
Apr 23, 2014 8:32pm
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Apr 23, 2014 8:43 PM
Midstate01;1608457 wrote:Am I the only person who has no idea why pine tar is illegal? It doesn't change the pitch. It only gives a pitcher better grip. Batters are allowed to use it or a glove for better grip on the bat. Why can't pitchers have better grip. And yes I know they have rosin but that's not doing anything when it's cold.

Regardless it's the rule and he deserved to be ejected. Though it's walking a fine line for a team to challenge it, since it's probably 100% that one of their pitchers does it too. Though hides it much better
Probably because its just easier to ban all of it for pitchers then try to decipher if its pinetar or pinetar being used as a mixture to cover up something else.
Apr 23, 2014 8:43pm
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Apr 24, 2014 12:31 AM
Laley23;1608465 wrote:Probably because its just easier to ban all of it for pitchers then try to decipher if its pinetar or pinetar being used as a mixture to cover up something else.
Yeah exactly. Batters actually prefer pitchers using it because they have less of a chance of being hit by a wild pitch
Apr 24, 2014 12:31am
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Apr 24, 2014 8:26 AM
Classyposter58;1608547 wrote:Yeah exactly. Batters actually prefer pitchers using it because they have less of a chance of being hit by a wild pitch
Lol where do you come up with this shit?
Apr 24, 2014 8:26am
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Apr 24, 2014 8:28 AM
GOONx19;1608581 wrote:Lol where do you come up with this shit?
Yeah, I have NEVER heard that before.
Apr 24, 2014 8:28am
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Apr 24, 2014 8:31 AM
SportsAndLady;1608583 wrote:Yeah, I have NEVER heard that before.
Me either but I don't pay much attention to baseball...
Apr 24, 2014 8:31am
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Apr 24, 2014 8:37 AM
Ironman92;1608584 wrote:Me either but I don't pay much attention to baseball...
You would think Sean Casey and George grande, with how much random out of this world shit they talk about, would talk about that at some point.
Apr 24, 2014 8:37am
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Apr 24, 2014 8:42 AM
GOONx19;1608581 wrote:Lol where do you come up with this shit?
There is a small chance I heard Curt Schilling say this once last year. It sounds familiar. Or Classy could have said it once before and that's how I remember it lol.
Apr 24, 2014 8:42am
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Apr 24, 2014 9:20 AM
The thing that gets me is, he would've been able to get away with it if it wasn't painfully obvious. Gotta do better...

The theme of the whole story was stupidity, not cheating. Gamesmanship is part of the sport.
Apr 24, 2014 9:20am
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Apr 24, 2014 9:47 AM
Azubuike24;1608595 wrote:The thing that gets me is, he would've been able to get away with it if it wasn't painfully obvious. Gotta do better...

The theme of the whole story was stupidity, not cheating. Gamesmanship is part of the sport.
Yeah, I was reading the article on it last night and the Sox guys were basically saying that Farrell had to say something because the dude was just flaunting the tar with the way he had it slabbed on his neck. You see guys have it on their hats all the time, or a guy like Buchholz, who ramps up the sunscreen to pancaked-makeup levels for the same purpose, but doing it that way was just so stupidly obvious, it was hilarious.
Apr 24, 2014 9:47am
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Apr 24, 2014 10:07 AM
Classyposter58;1608547 wrote:Yeah exactly. Batters actually prefer pitchers using it because they have less of a chance of being hit by a wild pitch
Are you serious?

I think I have heard it all now.

Because getting hit by a pitch is so prevelant....
Apr 24, 2014 10:07am
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Apr 24, 2014 10:14 AM
SportsAndLady;1608586 wrote:You would think Sean Casey and George grande, with how much random out of this world shit they talk about, would talk about that at some point.
They are too busy tickling each other
Apr 24, 2014 10:14am
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Apr 24, 2014 12:11 PM
I see where another Padre is having his second Tommy John surgery.
That is the second one this year for the Pads that a player had his second TJ. The other was the local kid Cory Luebke. Bad luck? Poor guidance from the club on the rehab?
Apr 24, 2014 12:11pm
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Apr 24, 2014 4:21 PM
In Classys defense, I've heard tons of people say they don't mind it cause batters don't want a wild pitcher throwing.

-Rick Manning
-Harold Reynolds
-Kevin Millar
-Whoever was on MLB Network Radio (I think Michael Kay)
-Doug Glanville
Apr 24, 2014 4:21pm
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thavoice

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Apr 24, 2014 4:25 PM
Just wait till a pitcher pulls an Eddie Harris and uses Vagisil on the ball.....
Apr 24, 2014 4:25pm
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Apr 24, 2014 4:27 PM
Laley23;1608812 wrote:In Classys defense, I've heard tons of people say they don't mind it cause batters don't want a wild pitcher throwing.

-Rick Manning
-Harold Reynolds
-Kevin Millar
-Whoever was on MLB Network Radio (I think Michael Kay)
-Doug Glanville
I dont know, I guess when I played I never really worried about getting hit.
If a pitcher would have better control with the pine tar then I guess one could say he should be able to paint the corners of the zone much better and more often, and maybe give you a mph or two more on a FB or more break on the CB with the better grip. That, as a hitter, would be more 'worrisome' than the occassional HBP
Apr 24, 2014 4:27pm
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Apr 24, 2014 6:32 PM
Laley23;1608812 wrote:In Classys defense, I've heard tons of people say they don't mind it cause batters don't want a wild pitcher throwing.

-Rick Manning
-Harold Reynolds
-Kevin Millar
-Whoever was on MLB Network Radio (I think Michael Kay)
-Doug Glanville
That's less than 1/2 a ton
Apr 24, 2014 6:32pm
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Apr 24, 2014 6:35 PM
Ironman92;1608852 wrote:That's less than 1/2 a ton
You're less than half a ton.
Apr 24, 2014 6:35pm
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thavoice

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Apr 24, 2014 6:36 PM
Ironman92;1608852 wrote:That's less than 1/2 a ton
ton = 2000 lbs I believe.

I dont know...do those five avg 200 lbs?
Apr 24, 2014 6:36pm
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Apr 24, 2014 9:18 PM
Glanville is ultra skinny and Reynolds is a good bit under 200
Apr 24, 2014 9:18pm
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Apr 24, 2014 9:19 PM
Rotinaj;1608854 wrote:You're less than half a ton.
I'm less than 1/10th of a ton
Apr 24, 2014 9:19pm
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Apr 25, 2014 3:17 PM
Thank Goodness

Apr 25, 2014 3:17pm
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Apr 25, 2014 3:30 PM
Ironman92;1608895 wrote:I'm less than 1/10th of a ton
Are you calling me fat?!?!??!!?!?!
Apr 25, 2014 3:30pm