Rotinaj;1679263 wrote:And the worst team in the ACC Coastal beat the #1 team in the entire B1G at their place. Looks like the ACC is the best conference.

Pick6;1679275 wrote:I think Baylor and/or TCU will get fucked and rightfully so. Serves the conference right for not having a conference championship game. Get with the times.

Rich Rod winning at Zona just tells me that the B1G is that much better than the Pac 12. The not only dude couldn't win at Michigan, but flat out sucked with the best recruits and resources you could ask for!

Ironman92;1679289 wrote:Not a great correlation ...I thought the Pac 12 was overrated earlier but I don't think that anymore. I do agree on screwing the Big 12. How can you not have a conference championship?

slingshot4ever;1679290 wrote:Are you guys that dumb that you don't realize it is a NCAA rule that you can't have a conference championship game unless your conference contains at least 12 schools.

slingshot4ever;1679290 wrote:Are you guys that dumb that you don't realize it is a NCAA rule that you can't have a conference championship game unless your conference contains at least 12 schools.

Pick6;1679292 wrote:I wasn't aware the Big 12 had no control over adding schools to their conference.

Ironman92;1679291 wrote:Yes, but not dumb enough not to know that you edited it and added that.....otherwise you must not have known it either.

Sorry, I'm not up on every NCAA rule....and neither are you.

Nice try.

slingshot4ever;1679295 wrote:i was simply adding clarity to my post, not changing content

slingshot4ever;1679294 wrote:so what was the Big Tens excuse for almost the entire BCS era to get to 12 teams? Take off the blinders.

Pick6;1679275 wrote:I think Baylor and/or TCU will get fucked and rightfully so. Serves the conference right for not having a conference championship game. Get with the times.

Rich Rod winning at Zona just tells me that the B1G is that much better than the Pac 12. The not only dude couldn't win at Michigan, but flat out sucked with the best recruits and resources you could ask for!

WebFire;1679309 wrote:The B1G was not RRod's problem. For one, he didn't get the best recruits you could ask for. That was part of the problem. Second, he didn't get the best resources either. His DC didn't come with him, which ultimately led to his failing. He wasn't given the open checkbook for assistants like Hoke has been.

Hoke on the other hand, has had great recruiting classes, and given the open checkbook for coordinators. And he is doing arguably worse than RRod.

Pick6;1679299 wrote:Do they need an excuse? No time is coming to mind where not having a championship game negatively affected them, but if it did, they have nobody to blame but themselves. This is a new system controlled by human judgement, not a formula. Missing a chance to get an extra win over a top 10-15 team (unless you play in the ACC) to help keep up or separate yourself from the rest of the pack is negligence in my opinion. If you have two p5 teams with one loss and one team has one more win, who do you pick? If teams have the same record and one has one more top 10 win than the other, who do you pick? Seems like it should have crossed those minds who makes hundreds of thousands or even millions or dollars a year to run a conference. There are programs out there who come to mind that arguably deserve/would gladly accept an invitation to the Big 12. Boise and Cinci come to mind right away.

Heretic;1679379 wrote:The end of this post is a very legit point. Boise and Cincy are two programs which have been good enough over the past years to deserve better than to be relegated to non-Power 5 status and are definitely better than a lot of teams that are in Power 5 conferences. As far as I'm concerned the Big 12 has two options: they can add programs like that and get with the times as far as having a conference championship game. Or they can pace around the room nervously next Saturday while hoping like hell that, say, a potentially one-loss OSU team doesn't leapfrog them because they beat a top 15 or so team while TCU/Baylor are both idle.

Fly4Fun;1679380 wrote:Wasn't the issue with the Big 12 that Texas and Oklahoma don't like sharing with the other members and want a larger slice of the pie? Isn't that why Nebraska, Missouri and Texas A&M left?

If so it seems like the greed is really coming back to hurt the conference.

Heretic;1679379 wrote:The end of this post is a very legit point. Boise and Cincy are two programs which have been good enough over the past years to deserve better than to be relegated to non-Power 5 status and are definitely better than a lot of teams that are in Power 5 conferences. As far as I'm concerned the Big 12 has two options: they can add programs like that and get with the times as far as having a conference championship game. Or they can pace around the room nervously next Saturday while hoping like hell that, say, a potentially one-loss OSU team doesn't leapfrog them because they beat a top 15 or so team while TCU/Baylor are both idle.

Ironman92;1679388 wrote:Baylor plays Kansas St and TCU plays ISU next week.

Pick6;1679394 wrote:Point is OSU will theoretically be 12-1 with another win over a top 15 team and Baylor/TCU 11-1.

Heretic;1679393 wrote:That's good for Baylor, but wouldn't be enough to pass Ohio State if they win out. TCU would about be better served with a bye, since "we played Iowa State" doesn't hold up compared to "we won a conference championship game".