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Sonofanump
Jan 1, 2014 11:04pm
Culter on the Browns this year would have been 9-11 wins.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 1, 2014 11:17pm
With a number of close games with big moments going the wrong way it's hard to argue....but he's missed an average of 4 games each of the past 3 seasons, completion % nothing great at 61%, TD/int ratio is not what you guys want and surprisingly has never had a QB rating in the 90's.Sonofanump;1560584 wrote:Culter on the Browns this year would have been 9-11 wins.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 1, 2014 11:34pm
I think people are in love with the thought of Cutler....but look at his results. How many times does he throw critical interceptions? How often is he injured...and his toughness being questioned? The browns threw for more yards and touchdowns than new England (going into the last week...no idea what new England did this past week). Our overrated defense was just as much to blame for all the blown leads and losses. Don't get me wrong, we need a qb for stability, but Cutler is not a winner....never has been.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jan 2, 2014 12:05am
Cutler with Hoyer as his backup and honestly as a bengals fan I think you easily make the playoffs
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Sonofanump
Jan 2, 2014 12:14am
I don't want Cutler long term. He is in the middle of his career and just above average starter. But he would have given this 2013 Browns team 9-11 wins if he played all 16 games.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 2, 2014 12:17am
If Cutler's backup would've played the last two weeks the Bears might've made the playoffs. For about every 15 TD's Cutty has thrown in his career....he 's thrown 11 INT'ssportchampps;1560610 wrote:Cutler with Hoyer as his backup and honestly as a bengals fan I think you easily make the playoffs
But he is saved as one of my all-time favorite pics
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 9:18am
I think we are in of the thought of having anyone other than Campbell and weeden under center.wes_mantooth;1560598 wrote:I think people are in love with the thought of Cutler.....
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 9:24am
Thanks for proving my point. Delusional little shit head. LOLClassyposter58;1560580 wrote:They should have won 10 games lol. They were favored to win 10 games but poor coaching lead to them crapping out and missing the playoffs
"Derp, it's the NFL, everyone is in every game. That should not matter... Except if you are the Detroit lions, then you chalk that up as games they should've won, thus they are better than their record states." /classlesslogic
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Jan 2, 2014 10:25am
Actually surprised you got the historical reference. A+ for you.Sonofanump;1560581 wrote:Typical Tearnan post. Mass homicide is funny to you.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 2, 2014 10:39am
Because they were favored to win the game, and had on paper superior talent? I don't get it, Cleveland lost 7 games by double digits lol, 7! Compare that to Detroit who lost 3 by double digits and 6 by less than a TD including 3 on a last second FG. Detroit was very close, Cleveland was not, simple as thatlike_that;1560701 wrote:Thanks for proving my point. Delusional little shit head. LOL
"Derp, it's the NFL, everyone is in every game. That should not matter... Except if you are the Detroit lions, then you chalk that up as games they should've won, thus they are better than their record states." /classlesslogic
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jan 2, 2014 10:48am
This isn't horseshoes or hand grenades. You don't get points for almost. Both the Browns and Lions sucked this year.Classyposter58;1560755 wrote:Because they were favored to win the game, and had on paper superior talent? I don't get it, Cleveland lost 7 games by double digits lol, 7! Compare that to Detroit who lost 3 by double digits and 6 by less than a TD including 3 on a last second FG. Detroit was very close, Cleveland was not, simple as that
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 2, 2014 10:54am
Both played below their talent. Debatable who was worse in that regard.Al Bundy;1560762 wrote:This isn't horseshoes or hand grenades. You don't get points for almost. Both the Browns and Lions sucked this year.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 11:04am
The lions are what their record says they are. Below .500 combined record the last 5 years. Superior talent my ass LOL. They have 2 very good players and one slightly above average. A team you claimed that had "too many weapons" couldn't even win the division despite having the tie breaker on the bears and the packers throwing out Matt Flynn as their QB.Classyposter58;1560755 wrote:Because they were favored to win the game, and had on paper superior talent? I don't get it, Cleveland lost 7 games by double digits lol, 7! Compare that to Detroit who lost 3 by double digits and 6 by less than a TD including 3 on a last second FG. Detroit was very close, Cleveland was not, simple as that
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 2, 2014 11:18am
Superior to the Browns? It's not really close, they have a better front 7 on D and have an offense that can finish. Cleveland has no balance at all, Lions have a good backfield combo in Bush/Bell, capable QB in Stafford and the best WR in the NFL. Plus they went into Cleveland, dominated the second half and won by 14 last seasonlike_that;1560774 wrote:The lions are what their record says they are. Below .500 combined record the last 5 years. Superior talent my ass LOL. They have 2 very good players and one slightly above average. A team you claimed that had "too many weapons" couldn't even win the division despite having the tie breaker on the bears and the packers throwing out Matt Flynn as their QB.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 2, 2014 11:23am
I must say there is something extremely hilarious about a fan of the non-playoff third-place team in a division that was won by an 8-7-1 squad bragging about how much talent is there in comparison to another non-playoff team.
It sort of reminds me of the mid-00s when Cincy fans were going 8-8 and talking like their team was the second coming on the old Huddle because they finished the year on a good note. And, well, coming into this weekend, the Bengals still haven't won a postseason game in over 20 years. Guess that all didn't work out for them...
Detroit hasn't been particularly good in forever. They have a couple guys who put up great fantasy numbers, but that hasn't translated to consistent winning and postseason runs. Until that happens, no Detroit fan should be bragging about anything more than how Megatron helped them win a fantasy title.
It sort of reminds me of the mid-00s when Cincy fans were going 8-8 and talking like their team was the second coming on the old Huddle because they finished the year on a good note. And, well, coming into this weekend, the Bengals still haven't won a postseason game in over 20 years. Guess that all didn't work out for them...
Detroit hasn't been particularly good in forever. They have a couple guys who put up great fantasy numbers, but that hasn't translated to consistent winning and postseason runs. Until that happens, no Detroit fan should be bragging about anything more than how Megatron helped them win a fantasy title.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 11:25am
You guys beat a Brandon weeden browns in the 2nd half?!?! Wow, you guys are definitely going to the Super Bowl next year with your overrated QB.Classyposter58;1560780 wrote:Superior to the Browns? It's not really close, they have a better front 7 on D and have an offense that can finish. Cleveland has no balance at all, Lions have a good backfield combo in Bush/Bell, capable QB in Stafford and the best WR in the NFL. Plus they went into Cleveland, dominated the second half and won by 14 last season
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jan 2, 2014 11:28am
Not to mention the two teams that finished ahead of the Lions both had their starting qb out a good portion of the season.Heretic;1560783 wrote:I must say there is something extremely hilarious about a fan of the non-playoff third-place team in a division that was won by an 8-7-1 squad bragging about how much talent is there in comparison to another non-playoff team.
It sort of reminds me of the mid-00s when Cincy fans were going 8-8 and talking like their team was the second coming on the old Huddle because they finished the year on a good note. And, well, coming into this weekend, the Bengals still haven't won a postseason game in over 20 years. Guess that all didn't work out for them...
Detroit hasn't been particularly good in forever. They have a couple guys who put up great fantasy numbers, but that hasn't translated to consistent winning and postseason runs. Until that happens, no Detroit fan should be bragging about anything more than how Megatron helped them win a fantasy title.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 2, 2014 12:24pm
true, but have you seen that lineup...wow!Heretic;1560783 wrote:I must say there is something extremely hilarious about a fan of the non-playoff third-place team in a division that was won by an 8-7-1 squad bragging about how much talent is there in comparison to another non-playoff team.
It sort of reminds me of the mid-00s when Cincy fans were going 8-8 and talking like their team was the second coming on the old Huddle because they finished the year on a good note. And, well, coming into this weekend, the Bengals still haven't won a postseason game in over 20 years. Guess that all didn't work out for them...
Detroit hasn't been particularly good in forever. They have a couple guys who put up great fantasy numbers, but that hasn't translated to consistent winning and postseason runs. Until that happens, no Detroit fan should be bragging about anything more than how Megatron helped them win a fantasy title.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 2, 2014 5:53pm
Exactly. Let's not forget this point.Al Bundy;1560785 wrote:Not to mention the two teams that finished ahead of the Lions both had their starting qb out a good portion of the season.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 2, 2014 6:00pm
Detroit is not good at football. Simple as that. Stafford isn't elite, and the only person you have is megatron. Act like the Lions "should've" won anything. you had a chance to win the confereance back when Rodgers went down and you went 1-6 to close out the season. Your team sucks, regardless of how many points you lost by LOLClassyposter58;1560755 wrote:Because they were favored to win the game, and had on paper superior talent? I don't get it, Cleveland lost 7 games by double digits lol, 7! Compare that to Detroit who lost 3 by double digits and 6 by less than a TD including 3 on a last second FG. Detroit was very close, Cleveland was not, simple as that
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 2, 2014 6:00pm
A capable QB vs terrible teams. 1-22 against winners. Yeah, have fun with that baby faced bitch.Classyposter58;1560780 wrote:Superior to the Browns? It's not really close, they have a better front 7 on D and have an offense that can finish. Cleveland has no balance at all, Lions have a good backfield combo in Bush/Bell, capable QB in Stafford and the best WR in the NFL. Plus they went into Cleveland, dominated the second half and won by 14 last season
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 2, 2014 6:18pm
Few on here (or probably anywhere) like stats as much as I do......that 1-22 stat may be the stat of the year. Insanely elite choking prowess.DeyDurkie5;1560961 wrote:A capable QB vs terrible teams. 1-22 against winners. Yeah, have fun with that baby faced bitch.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 2, 2014 6:21pm
There are other factors in winning football games already, but this one is a bit ridiculous if you want to call yourself one of the most clutch QBs in the NFL LOL. As I said earlier, that stat was posted around week 14ish, so maybe his record changed a bit. I know the Packers finished over .500 (barely), so thats one more win for him I guess.Ironman92;1560972 wrote:Few on here (or probably anywhere) like stats as much as I do......that 1-22 stat may be the stat of the year. Insanely elite choking prowess.
Edit: just checked. Lions played 5 teams that finished over .500. They went 1-4, and that was against a reeling packers team that was adjusting to life with Matt Flynn. So, 2-26!
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 2, 2014 6:31pm
The fact the he cites him as being one of the most clutch QB's in the league by looking at his 4th Quarter numbers is the best part of this thread, failing to even mention the Win/Loss record.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 2, 2014 6:36pm
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