se-alum;1583607 wrote:I disagree that Miller doesn't need spring ball. He needs as much work on his passing as he can get.

Yup. And he can get plenty of that before next season during workouts and 7 on7.

centralbucksfan;1583824 wrote:Yup. And he can get plenty of that before next season during workouts and 7 on7.

True, but if he did injure the shoulder in the Clemson game he has not been doing much throwing since either. A lot of time wasted and he needs the work...

rrfan;1583839 wrote:True, but if he did injure the shoulder in the Clemson game he has not been doing much throwing since either. A lot of time wasted and he needs the work...

It is what it is at this time. He was injured, he had surgery. Its doubtful he will be healed enough to do spring ball. And even at that, Meyer isn't going to take ANY chances with this "franchise" player. And, as mentioned, OSU needs to develop a backup QB. Which I am sure his high priority to Meyer. Whether you agree with me or not about Miller, its extremely doubtful he does anything at all during spring ball.

centralbucksfan;1583917 wrote:It is what it is at this time. He was injured, he had surgery. Its doubtful he will be healed enough to do spring ball. And even at that, Meyer isn't going to take ANY chances with this "franchise" player. And, as mentioned, OSU needs to develop a backup QB. Which I am sure his high priority to Meyer. Whether you agree with me or not about Miller, its extremely doubtful he does anything at all during spring ball.

Nobody is saying to take ANY chances. Not once has anyone said they should make Miller participate anyway. Simply said the timing sucks, because he needs the work badly, and let's not act like 7 on 7's are going to do much for him. His problem is not so much mechanics, as it is the ability to read defenses under pressure.

Miller will again be going to work with the qb guru guy. Can't remember his name.

Midstate01;1584138 wrote:Miller will again be going to work with the qb guru guy. Can't remember his name.

Whitfield. Hopefully they do A LOT of film work.

Midstate01;1584138 wrote:Miller will again be going to work with the qb guru guy. Can't remember his name.

While he's doing that, hopefully someone can work with our Off. Cord. and mix in some intermediate routes for our WR. Not just streak routes and WR screens.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1971636-ohio-state-football-how-braxton-millers-surgery-impacts-buckeyes-spring-pract?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming

As article states, this is a blessing in disguise. My exact thoughts.

se-alum;1584129 wrote:Nobody is saying to take ANY chances. Not once has anyone said they should make Miller participate anyway. Simply said the timing sucks, because he needs the work badly, and let's not act like 7 on 7's are going to do much for him. His problem is not so much mechanics, as it is the ability to read defenses under pressure.

And lets not act like a couple weeks vs a defense you see everyday, one that can't touch the QB, one that isn't going to run many stunts or blitzes, one that is quite frankly, not very good at the moment, is going to make any kind of major impact on Miller ability to read a defense.

centralbucksfan;1584167 wrote:And lets not act like a couple weeks vs a defense you see everyday, one that can't touch the QB, one that isn't going to run many stunts or blitzes, one that is quite frankly, not very good at the moment, is going to make any kind of major impact on Miller ability to read a defense.

So it will develop backup QB's, but it won't help Miller?

Benny The Jet;1584155 wrote:While he's doing that, hopefully someone can work with our Off. Cord. and mix in some intermediate routes for our WR. Not just streak routes and WR screens.

Philly Brown was running an intermediate route when Miller threw the ball directly to the LB against Clemson, maybe that's why they didn't run many of those routes. Intermediate routes are the hardest to throw since that is the part of the field most congested.

Doesn't mean they shouldn't run them because they're hard. Miller obviously needs to improve his accuracy, but we need to run better routes with our WR too.

se-alum;1584205 wrote:Philly Brown was running an intermediate route when Miller threw the ball directly to the LB against Clemson, maybe that's why they didn't run many of those routes. Intermediate routes are the hardest to throw since that is the part of the field most congested.

OSU hit big throws the whole year on intermediate routes (especially to Philly). Against the athletic defenses though we didn't have any guys who could create separation which is why everything was reverted to deep passes and runs. I agree that I wouldn't trust my game plan on Braxton throwing people open this past year, but Spencer and Smith are bad against good teams

se-alum;1584204 wrote:So it will develop backup QB's, but it won't help Miller?

Uh, when you are talking about backup QB's who have literally NO game experience, rarely any reps with first time offense, agaisnt first team defense, absolutely its going to make more of a difference for them compared to a guy who has been a 3yr starter. I am not saying Miller doesn't need to improve, he does. But it amazes me when I read some of this stuff. Some are acting like Miller is not very good. He just ran an offense that completely obliterated almost every offense record in the history of OSU football. An offense and a PLAYER who has literally carried this team and bailed this team out numerous times the past two years. Offense isn't the issue with this team, obviously. And Miller has shown he can and will improve as he has done almost every year. Miller is a proven commodety. Our backup is not, our RB is not nor is our offense line. Spring ball is a time for young guys with limited experience and reps., to get those reps. In years past, many experienced guys end up sitting most of the time with minor injuries because the coaches already know what they are going to get from them. Thus they take NO changes for serious injuries.
And as many mentioned, our WR need to get better and hopefully we have a new guy who can be a game changer in terms of spreading the defense.

centralbucksfan;1584260 wrote:Uh, when you are talking about backup QB's who have literally NO game experience, rarely any reps with first time offense, agaisnt first team defense, absolutely its going to make more of a difference for them compared to a guy who has been a 3yr starter. I am not saying Miller doesn't need to improve, he does. But it amazes me when I read some of this stuff. Some are acting like Miller is not very good. He just ran an offense that completely obliterated almost every offense record in the history of OSU football. An offense and a PLAYER who has literally carried this team and bailed this team out numerous times the past two years. Offense isn't the issue with this team, obviously. And Miller has shown he can and will improve as he has done almost every year. Miller is a proven commodety. Our backup is not, our RB is not nor is our offense line. Spring ball is a time for young guys with limited experience and reps., to get those reps. In years past, many experienced guys end up sitting most of the time with minor injuries because the coaches already know what they are going to get from them. Thus they take NO changes for serious injuries.
And as many mentioned, our WR need to get better and hopefully we have a new guy who can be a game changer in terms of spreading the defense.

Agreed with pretty much all of this.

We'll move on, we'll never agree on how good Miller is or how much work he needs.

Here's a short article on Barrett.

http://theozone.net/football/2014/BarrettReadytoCompete.html

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2014/02/33877/tickets-ohio-state-navy-baltimore-go-sale-tomorrow

vball10set;1585365 wrote:http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2014/02/33877/tickets-ohio-state-navy-baltimore-go-sale-tomorrow

Buying as many tickets as I can get tomorrow.

Urban Meyer had a brain cyst drained over the weekend. Good to coach tomorrow.

LJ;1586699 wrote:Urban Meyer had a brain cyst drained over the weekend. Good to coach tomorrow.

Good news, and here's a little blurb about it.

http://www.bcsn.tv/news_article/show/356127

COLUMBUS — Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer is doing well after undergoing a brief procedure to drain fluid from a cyst on his brain last weekend, a school spokesman said Monday night.
The school said Meyer will be on the field for today’s first day of spring practice.
Doctors first discovered Meyer’s cyst in 1998 when he was an assistant coach at Notre Dame. The latest procedure was to ease pressure that had caused him headaches the past few weeks.

Heurman is limited this spring. Broke his nose in the weight room lol

LJ;1586884 wrote:Heurman is limited this spring. Broke his nose in the weight room lol

How in the world does one break their nose in the weight room? Can you say... #WeightRoomScuffle?

Scarlet_Buckeye;1586902 wrote:How in the world does one break their nose in the weight room? Can you say... #WeightRoomScuffle?

No.

Mick had then competing in 1 on 1 tug of war and the unknown other player let go and Heurman smashed his face

Scarlet_Buckeye;1586902 wrote:How in the world does one break their nose in the weight room? Can you say... #WeightRoomScuffle?

This isn't twitter, STFU

SportsAndLady;1586921 wrote:This isn't twitter, STFU

lol