LOL.queencitybuckeye;1547392 wrote:Joeckel was the best college football player I saw last year.
Great player, I agree...but c'mon.
LOL.queencitybuckeye;1547392 wrote:Joeckel was the best college football player I saw last year.
My point is how can a lineman be your Heisman winner if he isn't even unanimously considered the best lineman in the country? It's different for a QB or RB, but for a lineman to be considered a Heisman candidate he has to be THE BEST, period. jmo.queencitybuckeye;1547403 wrote:Pro potential != college performance.
What about Suh? Suh was the best player in CFB that year and didn't win. What a joke.vball10set;1547396 wrote:A MAC player was taken ahead of him in the draft...just sayin'
What about him? I said the criteria for a lineman to be considered for the Heisman he had to be arguably the best at his position, and Suh was. I know he didn't win, and maybe he should have, but that wasn't the point I was making.sleeper;1547434 wrote:What about Suh? Suh was the best player in CFB that year and didn't win. What a joke.
No the point we should be making is the Heisman doesn't go to the best player or the best pro prospect; it simply goes to best player on a top 5 team who happens to be a QB or RB.vball10set;1547438 wrote:What about him? I said the criteria for a lineman to be considered for the Heisman he had to be arguably the best at his position, and Suh was. I know he didn't win, and maybe he should have, but that wasn't the point I was making.
Yeah, it's always been like that...that's the way it goes.sleeper;1547446 wrote:No the point we should be making is the Heisman doesn't go to the best player or the best pro prospect; it simply goes to best player on a top 5 team who happens to be a QB or RB.
Good MAC player, not the best player in the country as this award is supposed to be. Doesn't matter what anyone thinks. if Winston is not sitting in jail by 12-9, he wins easily. McCarron blew it when they lost Saturday, Miller and Hyde didn't play enough games. There just aren't that many good candidates out there. The fact that Jordan Lynch even gets mentioned proves that.Zombaypirate;1547094 wrote:The Heisman is a complete joke. Jordan Lynch should win this with ease.
Whatever dude.ccrunner609;1551323 wrote:OSU players don't fit the narrative. ESPN agenda is anti OSU.
I agree. I could not care less this year.vball10set;1551276 wrote:6 finalists invited and no Hyde (or Brax)....I won't be watching.
If neither one missed any games, they both might be at the invite IMO. I doubt there has EVER been a player invited who missed the amount of games these guys did. Like it or not, the Heisman is mostly about the numbers. If both had been played every game, their numbers, as well as OSU success, would have had them in NY IMO.se-alum;1551431 wrote:Anyone that thinks Miller should've been nominated is on crack. He had 3 really good games, but he missed a couple, and was very average passing the ball in others. If any OSU player deserved it, Hyde was the guy.
Don't know yet, but fingers crossed he does.rrfan;1551508 wrote:Is Braxton coming back next year?
I believe last week he said he was almost postive he would be back. Although he said he hasn't hide time to think or really look into it much. I can't imagine him leaving. Expecially after that loss.rrfan;1551508 wrote:Is Braxton coming back next year?