Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 13, 2014 3:27pm
You know it for a fact that Manning is the OC and Gase has nothing to do with it?se-alum;1566666 wrote:Wanting a guy that is Peyton Manning's "OC" is an even bigger problem.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 13, 2014 3:30pm
I've decided to take Gil Brandt's analysis of Gase over SE's. I feel good about my decision.
He'll if Gase declines after we wait we can always call Jim Tressel, cause he'll still be there.
He'll if Gase declines after we wait we can always call Jim Tressel, cause he'll still be there.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 13, 2014 3:45pm
Stop. SE is the exclusive insider for anything related Browns.bases_loaded;1566675 wrote:I've decided to take Gil Brandt's analysis of Gase over SE's. I feel good about my decision.
He'll if Gase declines after we wait we can always call Jim Tressel, cause he'll still be there.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 13, 2014 3:59pm
Se showing his stupidity. What else is new
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 13, 2014 4:28pm
You didn't like Gase not long ago, now you've changed your mind?like_that;1566685 wrote:Stop. SE is the exclusive insider for anything related Browns.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 13, 2014 4:32pm
Even if the likely exaggeration is valid and Manning is the de facto OC, that doesn't prove that this guy can't coach.Commander of Awesome;1566672 wrote:You know it for a fact that Manning is the OC and Gase has nothing to do with it?
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 13, 2014 4:40pm
Not saying Gase isn't a good coach, he obviously wouldn't be where he is if he wasn't. IMO, this franchise needs a proven winner. The browns have been a joke since they returned to the league. Stop trying to outsmart ourselves by trying to strike gold with an unproven commodity, and hire someone that has shown they can win.queencitybuckeye;1566702 wrote:Even if the likely exaggeration is valid and Manning is the de facto OC, that doesn't prove that this guy can't coach.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 13, 2014 4:45pm
Not sure I agree with this, look at Patty boy.se-alum;1566707 wrote:Not saying Gase isn't a good coach, he obviously wouldn't be where he is if he wasn't. IMO, this franchise needs a proven winner. The browns have been a joke since they returned to the league. Stop trying to outsmart ourselves by trying to strike gold with an unproven commodity, and hire someone that has shown they can win.
Gase by all accounts has been a huge part of the Broncos success this season, not just Manning.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 13, 2014 4:49pm
That's a short list. The skill set between assistants (including coordinators) and the head coach is so different, I would argue that no assistants without head coaching experience fills your requirement.se-alum;1566707 wrote:Not saying Gase isn't a good coach, he obviously wouldn't be where he is if he wasn't. IMO, this franchise needs a proven winner. The browns have been a joke since they returned to the league. Stop trying to outsmart ourselves by trying to strike gold with an unproven commodity, and hire someone that has shown they can win.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 13, 2014 4:53pm
That's my point, I don't want an assistant. I want a head coach that is a proven winner. I know you have to start somewhere as a head coach, but rarely are you successful in your first head coaching gig.queencitybuckeye;1566713 wrote:That's a short list. The skill set between assistants (including coordinators) and the head coach is so different, I would argue that no assistants without head coaching experience fills your requirement.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 13, 2014 5:03pm
I'm OK with that, how about a couple of names?se-alum;1566715 wrote:That's my point, I don't want an assistant. I want a head coach that is a proven winner. I know you have to start somewhere as a head coach, but rarely are you successful in your first head coaching gig.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 13, 2014 5:09pm
My #1 is Zimmer.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jan 13, 2014 5:56pm
How do you feel about Munchak. He has HC experience but his record was 22-26 in Tennessee.
Personaly i I don't think he really did anything with Tennessee and they never really improved. I also read he kinda resigned because they didn't want to keep his guys in place so I'm not sure he would take the Browns job unless he could have his guys and some bit of power.
They interviewed Zimmer last year didn't they so he would be ruled out. BTW I think Zimmer is the best coach available and better then those already hired.
Personaly i I don't think he really did anything with Tennessee and they never really improved. I also read he kinda resigned because they didn't want to keep his guys in place so I'm not sure he would take the Browns job unless he could have his guys and some bit of power.
They interviewed Zimmer last year didn't they so he would be ruled out. BTW I think Zimmer is the best coach available and better then those already hired.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 13, 2014 5:57pm
When did I change my mind? He still wouldn't be my top choice, but id easily take him over munchak, mcdaniels, the Green Bay QB coach, Schiano, and whatever other fuck yard would be rumored.se-alum;1566700 wrote:You didn't like Gase not long ago, now you've changed your mind?
Id go zimmer, whiz, Quinn.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 13, 2014 5:58pm
Whenever you have the chance to hire a 22-26 coach you gotta do it.sportchampps;1566735 wrote:How do you feel about Munchak. He has HC experience but his record was 22-26 in Tennessee.
Personaly i I don't think he really did anything with Tennessee and they never really improved. I also read he kinda resigned because they didn't want to keep his guys in place so I'm not sure he would take the Browns job unless he could have his guys and some bit of power.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jan 13, 2014 6:00pm
4 of the last 5 Super Bowls were won by first time head coaches. If you extend this and look at all-time, it is 34 of 47.se-alum;1566715 wrote: rarely are you successful in your first head coaching gig.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 13, 2014 6:05pm
Titans hire Whisenhunt.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jan 13, 2014 6:06pm
2 of those 4 Super Bowl winning coaches I don't think I would want to coach my team. (Mike McCarthy and Tomlin)
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jan 13, 2014 6:08pm
Link wildcats
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 13, 2014 6:08pm
Hire Mike Zimmer.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 13, 2014 6:10pm
It's all over Twitter. Schefter reported it first.sportchampps;1566745 wrote:Link wildcats
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jan 13, 2014 6:12pm
The Browns will not hire Zimmer. That would mean that they would have to admit they interviewed the right guy last year and just overlooked him. If they hire Zimmer Banner and Lombardi would have to go.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jan 13, 2014 6:14pm
BTW if the Lions hire Caldwell that will make for some easy betting in the NFL. He is a more modern art shell
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 13, 2014 6:23pm
How many first time head coaches have failed during that period?Al Bundy;1566740 wrote:4 of the last 5 Super Bowls were won by first time head coaches. If you extend this and look at all-time, it is 34 of 47.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jan 13, 2014 6:27pm
all but 4....Are you really this slow? but out of the retread coaches, they have all failed except 1.se-alum;1566753 wrote:How many first time head coaches have failed during that period?