ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Jul 29, 2014 3:32pm
If that's correct there's no way he won't win the appeal.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 29, 2014 3:41pm
I'd be pumped. He's a top 2 receiver in the league with an average at best QB throwing to him.BR1986FB;1639986 wrote:A source informed Profootballtalk that suspended WR Josh Gordon's failed drug test barely generated a positive, and it would have been a negative had luck been on Gordon's side.
Gordon was summoned for a urine sample. Those samples are split into two bottles, one marked "A" and the other "B." It's completely random which one is marked "A" and which is labeled "B." "A" is tested first, and if it generates a positive test, then "B" is tested. The limit is 15 nanograms-per-milliliter. Gordon's "A" bottle showed a concentration of 16 ng/ml, while his "B" registered a 13.6 ng/ml. The result was a failed test. If urine sample handlers would have by chance marked the "A" bottle "B" and the "B" bottle "A," then Gordon would be free to play. Gordon is appealing the ban, and his hearing will be held on Friday. There seems to be a decent chance he wins. Jul 29 - 2:21 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8282/josh-gordon
EDIT: I know he's a dumbass but how exciting would it be to have him for Week 1 in Pittsburgh?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Jul 29, 2014 3:47pm
Lovejoy1984
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Jul 29, 2014 3:51pm
Whats crazy, is how strict the NFL is compared to pretty much everyone else.
The WADA's limit is 150 ng/ml, the limit to legally fly a plane is 50 ng/ml, and for most companies the limit is the same 50ng/ml, to prevent 2nd hand false positives.
The WADA's limit is 150 ng/ml, the limit to legally fly a plane is 50 ng/ml, and for most companies the limit is the same 50ng/ml, to prevent 2nd hand false positives.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Jul 29, 2014 3:56pm
I would love to see him on the field. I just have a feeling They will through the book at him to look like they are tough on this drug testing. After missing on the Ray Rice ruling.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jul 29, 2014 3:57pm
Im trying so hard not to get excited that we might dodge a bullet. BUT then it comes back to me that is CLE and we never dodge bullets.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 29, 2014 4:04pm
Johnny was unofficially 9 of 26 passing today. Yikes... Here's a minute by minute breakdown.
http://www.espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=35521
http://www.espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=35521
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 29, 2014 4:52pm
Rookie had trouble first practice in pads? I'm shocked, fire ray farmer.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1640004 wrote:Johnny was unofficially 9 of 26 passing today. Yikes... Here's a minute by minute breakdown.
http://www.espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=35521
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 29, 2014 5:01pm
Both samples taken are at the levels of second hand smoke results. Seems that he and his lawyers have a valid argument. Also, his DUI cannot be used against him in this case. It is totally separate.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Jul 29, 2014 5:02pm
Iggy told me Manizel was incapable of incompleting a pass so I'm very worried now.Commander of Awesome;1640017 wrote:Rookie had trouble first practice in pads? I'm shocked, fire ray farmer.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 29, 2014 5:11pm
Lol, wasn't exactly saying that, but whatev. Anyways, Farmer wasn't the reason the Browns drafted Manziel. Haslam obviously made the call there.Commander of Awesome;1640017 wrote:Rookie had trouble first practice in pads? I'm shocked, fire ray farmer.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 29, 2014 5:21pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1640019 wrote:Iggy told me Manizel was incapable of incompleting a pass so I'm very worried now.
IQQY also said the Browns purposely drafted johnny to set him up for a competition that is 100% fail guarantee, thus he most likely isn't even trying. That would explain his numbers today.
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HelloAgain
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Jul 29, 2014 6:14pm
http://deadspin.com/report-nfl-drug-testing-is-screwed-up-and-screwed-josh-1612809023
Seems to be momentum gaining here for Gordon to win the appeal.
Seems to be momentum gaining here for Gordon to win the appeal.
SportsAndLady
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Jul 29, 2014 6:20pm
Hope he wins. This offense will be very good with him in there.
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BR1986FB
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Jul 29, 2014 8:34pm
Just got done watching the NFL Network's review from Browns TC. Former GM, Charlie Casserly was ripping the Browns QB's saying he felt the "Browns QB of the future would be taken in next years' draft with the pick they acquired from the Bills." Was foaming at the mouth over Terrance West.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1640004 wrote:Johnny was unofficially 9 of 26 passing today. Yikes... Here's a minute by minute breakdown.
http://www.espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=35521
The panel (LT, Kurt Warner, etc) went on to say that starting JFF, Week 1, would be stupid because he will be facing three blitzing defenses and if he stinks out of the gate, you pretty much can't go back to Hoyer and the season will be lost. If they start the season with Hoyer and he sucks in the first three games, they can claim "getting a look at the potential future in Manziel."
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jmog
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Jul 29, 2014 9:55pm
With how good our oline is I love that.BR1986FB;1639916 wrote:Early reports from today's TC sounds like the Browns front seven is manhandling the O-Line.
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 29, 2014 9:55pm
I wasn't saying you did. Was making fun of the dumbasa articleDr. KnOiTaLL;1640020 wrote:Lol, wasn't exactly saying that, but whatev. Anyways, Farmer wasn't the reason the Browns drafted Manziel. Haslam obviously made the call there.
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BR1986FB
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Jul 30, 2014 10:53am
This is from Grossi so take it fwiw but he has some valid points....
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=35361
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=35361
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 30, 2014 11:01am
Thought he missed the test and this link says it was secondhand smoke?BR1986FB;1640151 wrote:This is from Grossi so take it fwiw but he has some valid points....
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=35361
Pick a BS excuse and go with it.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 30, 2014 12:32pm
I'll take it for what it's worth, NOTHING, and wont read it. : thumbup:BR1986FB;1640151 wrote:This is from Grossi so take it fwiw but he has some valid points....
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=35361
DeyDurkie5
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Jul 30, 2014 12:58pm
Grossi is a dumb bitch. All that needs to be said about him
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 30, 2014 7:44pm
Picked up Jim Leonhard today. That is a sneaky good pick up imo.
Also, wtf is going on with Phil Taylor? He has been working hard all off season, i don't understand why he can't pass the test.
Also, wtf is going on with Phil Taylor? He has been working hard all off season, i don't understand why he can't pass the test.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 30, 2014 8:16pm
Footwedge 100 bucks. Quit punking out
Dr. KnOiTaLL
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Jul 30, 2014 8:48pm
Josh Gordon's appeal will be 'all or nothing'
Josh Gordon's appeal will be "all or nothing," either resulting in no ban at all or a full-year suspension.
NFLPA spokesman Brian McCarthy confirmed to PFT that when the league's disciplinary penalties were established 20 years ago, "the union expressed the strong view that they needed to be stated and mandatory to ensure that all players be treated the same regardless of position, experience, level of ability, or competitive considerations." If the hearing officer determines the violation was "established," Gordon will be "bound" to the one-year suspension. In other words, Gordon's ban could not be reduced to six, eight, or ten games. If the hearing officer finds there was a violation of the league's drug policy, Gordon's one-year ban will stand. If no violation is established, Gordon will be free to play a 16-game schedule barring a short ban related to his July DUI arrest.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
Jul 30 - 8:00 PM
Josh Gordon's appeal will be "all or nothing," either resulting in no ban at all or a full-year suspension.
NFLPA spokesman Brian McCarthy confirmed to PFT that when the league's disciplinary penalties were established 20 years ago, "the union expressed the strong view that they needed to be stated and mandatory to ensure that all players be treated the same regardless of position, experience, level of ability, or competitive considerations." If the hearing officer determines the violation was "established," Gordon will be "bound" to the one-year suspension. In other words, Gordon's ban could not be reduced to six, eight, or ten games. If the hearing officer finds there was a violation of the league's drug policy, Gordon's one-year ban will stand. If no violation is established, Gordon will be free to play a 16-game schedule barring a short ban related to his July DUI arrest.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
Jul 30 - 8:00 PM
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Footwedge
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Jul 30, 2014 9:18pm
Good Gawd Dorkie relax...we're on. I don't come here everyday like you do. We need to send a check payable to cash and send it to a mod. Who do you trust here? After the 4th game, the Browns host Pittsburgh. I will bet you $100 that Johnny football starts that game againstDeyDurkie5;1640276 wrote:Footwedge 100 bucks. Quit punking out
Pittsburg. Fuck injuries. Either one could get hurt. Whoever starts THAT Game wins the bet. Mmmmkay? Deal?