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BR1986FB
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Jul 23, 2014 2:04pm
I'm not as concerned as most because they aren't going to be a passing team.thavoice;1638224 wrote:I know you want to be optimistic man, but taking away one of, if not THE, best WR in the league is going to be extremely difficult to overcome and even if their other guys stay healthy I dont think they will be OK. Taking away the top threat in the league allows the defense to focus on everyone else.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 23, 2014 2:13pm
I hope this isn't the case, 'cause I'd like to think we'll be a more balanced team. I guess time will tell.BR1986FB;1638225 wrote:I'm not as concerned as most because they aren't going to be a passing team.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 23, 2014 2:18pm
Oh, I'm sure they will throw but my belief is that it's going to be a ball control/win with defense type of setup. I'll be very surprised if they are throwing the ball 30+ times per game.vball10set;1638232 wrote:I hope this isn't the case, 'cause I'd like to think we'll be a more balanced team. I guess time will tell.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 23, 2014 2:22pm
Tough to be a running team when you have very little threat to pass the ball. It may sound odd to some, but you would be a better running (and passing team) with Gordon on the field. To do this type of scheme you need an elite defense. Browns D is good, but not elite enough to use the Seahawks method of winning.BR1986FB;1638225 wrote:I'm not as concerned as most because they aren't going to be a passing team.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 23, 2014 2:27pm
The chiefs disagree.thavoice;1638242 wrote:Tough to be a running team when you have very little threat to pass the ball. It may sound odd to some, but you would be a better running (and passing team) with Gordon on the field. To do this type of scheme you need an elite defense. Browns D is good, but not elite enough to use the Seahawks method of winning.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 23, 2014 2:35pm
True.like_that;1638244 wrote:The chiefs disagree.
But they still have a QB who just plain wins games.
I still stand by the statement though that the browns would be a more successful running team WITH Gordon than without.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 23, 2014 2:37pm
No shit, but you don't need that much of a passing game to be successful at running. The Browns have an all pro TE. A running game is mostly an attitude of establishing your will. The fucking Jets made it to back to back conference title games with this approach, and they had Mark Sanchez as their QB. Just stop.thavoice;1638248 wrote:True.
But they still have a QB who just plain wins games.
I still stand by the statement though that the browns would be a more successful running team WITH Gordon than without.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 23, 2014 2:53pm
This.like_that;1638249 wrote:No shit, but you don't need that much of a passing game to be successful at running. The Browns have an all pro TE. A running game is mostly an attitude of establishing your will. The fucking Jets made it to back to back conference title games with this approach, and they had Mark Sanchez as their QB. Just stop.
Although the threat of a viable vertical passing game, with Gordon, would be nice and open things up, it's not a necessity. I get the "you need a vertical threat so opposing defenses don't stack the box" argument. I used to beat that dead horse when Colt McCoy was the QB here. Hoyer & Manziel are different animals though. With Cameron, the slot guy we picked up from Cincy, and a couple of these other receivers, they should be able to open things up enough to run the ball effectively.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 23, 2014 3:12pm
thavoice;1638242 wrote:Tough to be a running team when you have very little threat to pass the ball. It may sound odd to some, but you would be a better running (and passing team) with Gordon on the field. To do this type of scheme you need an elite defense. Browns D is good, but not elite enough to use the Seahawks method of winning.
The Vikings disagree.
The Seahwaks disagree.
The 49ers disagree.
Commander of Awesome
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Jul 23, 2014 3:26pm
Got a new avatar, thanks to a real american hero.
Lovejoy1984
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Jul 23, 2014 6:21pm
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 23, 2014 6:24pm
I wish I could press charges on model for being a scumbag lying pos. I'll gladly donate to that mans defense fund/Cleveland statueHighRoller74;1638317 wrote:http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-urination-on-art-modells-grave-disappointing-and-disrespectful-cemetery-says-20140723,0,1460692.story?track=rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Modells are pressing charges lol
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 23, 2014 6:25pm
Anyone else see that Terrence West is starting on the non-football injury list?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 23, 2014 6:26pm
Lol it was only a matter of time. A misdemeanor, what's the worst that can happen? David modell can go fuck himself too. Steve Everitt probably approves the pissing.HighRoller74;1638317 wrote:http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-urination-on-art-modells-grave-disappointing-and-disrespectful-cemetery-says-20140723,0,1460692.story?track=rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Modells are pressing charges lol
salto
Posts: 2,611
Jul 23, 2014 7:07pm
Hopefully the trash Browns fan ends up in prison.HighRoller74;1638317 wrote:http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-urination-on-art-modells-grave-disappointing-and-disrespectful-cemetery-says-20140723,0,1460692.story?track=rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Modells are pressing charges lol
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 23, 2014 7:20pm
Ugh maybe it's because of law school, but the first thought when I saw the video wasn't "f*ck yeah that dude is AWESOME" but rather "only a matter of time before he gets sued because he just provided evidence"HighRoller74;1638317 wrote:http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-urination-on-art-modells-grave-disappointing-and-disrespectful-cemetery-says-20140723,0,1460692.story?track=rss&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Modells are pressing charges lol
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 23, 2014 7:38pm
Dude, you went to law school?lhslep134;1638342 wrote:Ugh maybe it's because of law school, but the first thought when I saw the video wasn't "f*ck yeah that dude is AWESOME" but rather "only a matter of time before he gets sued because he just provided evidence"
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 23, 2014 8:22pm
Only at shitty ass Arizona...I know nothing.like_that;1638350 wrote:Dude, you went to law school?
:rolleyes:
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 23, 2014 8:34pm
Could they really sue on misdemeanor charges? Also, it is not 100% clear in the video that he is pissing lol.lhslep134;1638357 wrote:Only at shitty ass Arizona...I know nothing.
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lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 23, 2014 8:44pm
It all depends on the claim they would file, and Maryland/Baltimore's element requirements. He admits what he is doing, so that should be sufficient. Combine that with the showing of the 'texas catheter", and yeah it doesn't need to be 100% clear, but it's obvious enough to create liability. More likely it's a criminal statute that provides for a certain civil penalty or range of penalties.like_that;1638359 wrote:Could they really sue on misdemeanor charges? Also, it is not 100% clear in the video that he is pissing lol.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 23, 2014 8:44pm
He admits guilt though on the video, without any influence from an outside source (police/power). I would think that is enough, but I am not a lawyer...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 23, 2014 8:57pm
I think that Modell is a turd as much as the next guy but that dude is an idiot. Just another reason for BSPN and the rest of the nation to look at the city of Cleveland as a bunch of losers.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 23, 2014 9:34pm
Who gives a fuck what ESPN says or thinks. Modell is a piece of shit and deserves to have his grave pissed on.BR1986FB;1638370 wrote:I think that Modell is a turd as much as the next guy but that dude is an idiot. Just another reason for BSPN and the rest of the nation to look at the city of Cleveland as a bunch of losers.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 23, 2014 9:36pm
I am with you there. I don't give a fuck what ESPN says. Media has taken plenty of cheap shots at cleveland, it will never end.SportsAndLady;1638384 wrote:Who gives a fuck what ESPN says or thinks. Modell is a piece of shit and deserves to have his grave pissed on.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jul 23, 2014 9:44pm
Your intuition is goodLaley23;1638365 wrote:He admits guilt though on the video, without any influence from an outside source (police/power). I would think that is enough, but I am not a lawyer...
