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Nov 27, 2013 9:26 AM
Tiernan;1543921 wrote:Travesty of ESPN predjudice that Hyde isnt mentioned for the Walker Award. They will give it to Johnny Fuckup no matter what the actual voting numbers are.

LOL.
Nov 27, 2013 9:26am
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Nov 27, 2013 9:47 AM
Tiernan;1543921 wrote:Travesty of ESPN predjudice that Hyde isnt mentioned for the Walker Award. They will give it to Johnny Fuckup no matter what the actual voting numbers are.
For the record...Doak Walker is for best RB. So Johnny Football will not get that.
Nov 27, 2013 9:47am
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Nov 27, 2013 9:58 AM
rrfan;1543903 wrote:And not mentioned for the Doak Walker Award!
This makes zero sense to me. Who's a better RB in college football? I can't think of anyone.
Nov 27, 2013 9:58am
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Nov 27, 2013 10:02 AM
sleeper;1543941 wrote:This makes zero sense to me. Who's a better RB in college football? I can't think of anyone.
I blame Mark May...it has to be his fault.
Nov 27, 2013 10:02am
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Nov 27, 2013 10:33 AM
sleeper;1543941 wrote:This makes zero sense to me. Who's a better RB in college football? I can't think of anyone.
Suspension really hurt him. There are plenty of players with better numbers right now.
Nov 27, 2013 10:33am
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Nov 27, 2013 11:31 AM
WebFire;1543956 wrote:Suspension really hurt him. There are plenty of players with better numbers right now.
FSU better not have a QB in the running for the Heisman then.
Nov 27, 2013 11:31am
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Nov 27, 2013 11:42 AM
rrfan;1543976 wrote:FSU better not have a QB in the running for the Heisman then.
???
Nov 27, 2013 11:42am
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Nov 27, 2013 11:59 AM
WebFire;1543981 wrote:???
What part of that do you not understand. FSU QB is being investigated for far worse. What is good for the goose...
Nov 27, 2013 11:59am
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Nov 27, 2013 12:09 PM
rrfan;1543991 wrote:What part of that do you not understand. FSU QB is being investigated for far worse. What is good for the goose...
Hyde was suspended. Winston has not been.

And that's not even my point. My point was that Hyde's numbers are lower because he missed games. Otherwise he'd be a front runner for the award.
Nov 27, 2013 12:09pm
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Nov 27, 2013 12:10 PM
rrfan;1543991 wrote:What part of that do you not understand. FSU QB is being investigated for far worse. What is good for the goose...
Not that I enjoy defending a Michigan fan... but Webfire's post wasn't about the misconduct but the fact that he missed games. Winston hasn't missed games yet.

However, if he is charged before the votes go out I don't see any way he would be a Heisman winner. It would just look too bad for it if he was eventually convicted.
Nov 27, 2013 12:10pm
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Nov 27, 2013 12:19 PM
Fly4Fun;1543997 wrote:Not that I enjoy defending a Michigan fan... but Webfire's post wasn't about the misconduct but the fact that he missed games. Winston hasn't missed games yet.

However, if he is charged before the votes go out I don't see any way he would be a Heisman winner. It would just look too bad for it if he was eventually convicted.
If he is charged, he will be kicked off the team. He won't be a college football player any longer.
Nov 27, 2013 12:19pm
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Nov 27, 2013 12:21 PM
WebFire;1543996 wrote:Hyde was suspended. Winston has not been.

And that's not even my point. My point was that Hyde's numbers are lower because he missed games. Otherwise he'd be a front runner for the award.
But to this point, shoudl it really matter that he missed a few games? Even you just said what he has done has been amazing (not those words, but saying e'd be a front runner is basically saying as much). The Heisman isn't for the most productive (just total numbers) college football player but the most outstanding. He's been pretty damn outstanding in my opinion.
Nov 27, 2013 12:21pm
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Nov 27, 2013 12:22 PM
wildcats20;1543999 wrote:If he is charged, he will be kicked off the team. He won't be a college football player any longer.
Most likely but not guaranteed. FSU can under special circumstances not kick him off the team. It would look absolutely awful for FSU, but you never know.
Nov 27, 2013 12:22pm
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Nov 27, 2013 12:37 PM
Fly4Fun;1544001 wrote:Most likely but not guaranteed. FSU can under special circumstances not kick him off the team. It would look absolutely awful for FSU, but you never know.
True, I forgot they had that little provision.

Aka allows star athletes to remain on the team.
Nov 27, 2013 12:37pm
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Nov 27, 2013 12:37 PM
Fly4Fun;1544001 wrote:Most likely but not guaranteed. FSU can under special circumstances not kick him off the team. It would look absolutely awful for FSU, but you never know.
Hyde got suspended with out being charged with anything...FSU will not do anything unless they have to. They will hold off charges until football is over.
Nov 27, 2013 12:37pm
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Nov 27, 2013 12:51 PM
Fly4Fun;1544000 wrote:But to this point, shoudl it really matter that he missed a few games? Even you just said what he has done has been amazing (not those words, but saying e'd be a front runner is basically saying as much). The Heisman isn't for the most productive (just total numbers) college football player but the most outstanding. He's been pretty damn outstanding in my opinion.
You talking Heisman or Doak Walker? He's been good, but not Heisman good.
Nov 27, 2013 12:51pm
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Nov 27, 2013 2:43 PM
WebFire;1544013 wrote:You talking Heisman or Doak Walker? He's been good, but not Heisman good.
He would be Heisman good if he hadn't missed those 3 games. Look at what Jordan Hall did against those teams, and imagine what Hyde would've done. He would likely be around 1600 yards on the season with two games left. All for not though, because of a dumb decision.
Nov 27, 2013 2:43pm
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Nov 27, 2013 2:45 PM
Also, Hyde was basically out for 4 games. Got only 5 carries in his first game back.
Nov 27, 2013 2:45pm
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Nov 27, 2013 3:14 PM
se-alum;1544050 wrote:He would be Heisman good if he hadn't missed those 3 games. Look at what Jordan Hall did against those teams, and imagine what Hyde would've done. He would likely be around 1600 yards on the season with two games left. All for not though, because of a dumb decision.
Without a doubt--he would of at the very least been invited to NYC.
Nov 27, 2013 3:14pm
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Nov 27, 2013 6:07 PM
rip34;1544120 wrote:Didn't see this article linked. Thought it was an interesting take that I am sure many Buckeyes fans can attest to with the ESPN handling of the Hyde suspension at the beginning of the year.

http://msn.foxsports.com/college-football/story/travis-why-is-fsu-getting-free-pass-on-winston-that-meyer-would-not-112613
That article deserves it's own thread. Thanks for linking it.
Nov 27, 2013 6:07pm
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Nov 28, 2013 12:46 PM
Anyone ever been up to the big house for a game as an osu fan? Got tickets and am planning on going up and naturally wear osu gear. Is there usually problems with getting stuff thrown at you or anything?
Nov 28, 2013 12:46pm
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Nov 28, 2013 1:14 PM
Line on the OSU game is now -16
Nov 28, 2013 1:14pm
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Nov 29, 2013 12:39 AM
My neighbor just put $2250 each on OSU -15 and Auburn +10.5.

He's thinking Urban will keep the foot on the pedal all 60 minutes, regardless.
Nov 29, 2013 12:39am