Things that are overrated

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ernest_t_bass
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Nov 22, 2013 3:01pm
Me?;1541251 wrote:Alright, I'm starting a thread about SQ, meet me over there.
I already did.
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Nov 22, 2013 3:01pm
Automatik;1539134 wrote:

Dave Matthews Band
3rd'd!
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Nov 22, 2013 3:01pm
BR1986FB;1541250 wrote:You've already established a reputation for not being the brightest crayon in the box since you've joined this site.
I am exponentially smarter than you are. If other dullards take your side in assuming that I'm not intelligent, that doesn't really bother me--they're dullards for a reason.
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Nov 22, 2013 3:01pm
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queencitybuckeye
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Nov 22, 2013 3:03pm
Me?;1541249 wrote:That's completely false. Any musician will tell you that every member of DMB is as good as it gets musically, whether they're a fan of the sound they create or not. They wouldn't tell you the same about Nickelback.
Man, after I completely schooled you yesterday in the syg thread, you come back for more.

That someone's opinion is more learned than most others still doesn't make it anything other than opinion.
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Nov 22, 2013 3:22pm
queencitybuckeye;1541259 wrote:Man, after I completely schooled you yesterday in the syg thread, you come back for more.

That someone's opinion is more learned than most others still doesn't make it anything other than opinion.
LOL musical ability isn't opinion based. It's quantifiable. Like if we take a test, and one of us gets a B and one of us gets a C, the one who got the C can't just say that he did better on the test and that holds up because it's an opinion. Opinions can be wrong you know? In this case, it's not an opinion. It's a simple fact, the members of DMB are top level musicians. Every one of them. Their bass player is a prodigy. Dave Matthews is considered one of the best composers of our day. Their drummer is considered one of the best drummers in the world. It goes on and on. It's a collection of top level musicians. Nickelback is not. Liking this song or that song is based on opinion. Their ability is not.
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queencitybuckeye
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Nov 22, 2013 3:25pm
Me?;1541305 wrote:LOL musical ability isn't opinion based. It's quantifiable.
It isn't. Why do people just not admit they're wrong and look a little stupid instead of posting shit like this and multiplying it?
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BR1986FB
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Nov 22, 2013 3:25pm
queencitybuckeye;1541259 wrote:Man, after I completely schooled you yesterday in the syg thread, you come back for more.

That someone's opinion is more learned than most others still doesn't make it anything other than opinion.
Which is exactly it, my OPINION. If he wants to jock sniff DMB, have at it. I just think they blow.
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Nov 22, 2013 3:27pm
BR1986FB;1541312 wrote:Which is exactly it, my OPINION. If he wants to jock sniff DMB, have at it. I just think they blow.
As do I...cannot stand that stuff.
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BR1986FB
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Nov 22, 2013 3:29pm
OSH;1541314 wrote:As do I...cannot stand that stuff.
Getting in all of my last "reps" in case the Browns lose on Sunday. :)
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Nov 22, 2013 3:30pm
queencitybuckeye;1541311 wrote:It isn't. Why do people just not admit they're wrong and look a little stupid instead of posting shit like this and multiplying it?
It's absolutely quantifiable! Here is a composition, can student A play it? No. Can student B play it? Yes. Student B is the superior musician. That is not an opinion.
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Nov 22, 2013 3:32pm
It has nothing to do with "jock sniffing" DMB or getting you to enjoy their music. I don't care if you like their music. I was simply correcting a horrible comparison that was based in your own ignorance. You likened an autistic finger painter to Da Vinci. The shortstop on your softball team to Derek Jeter. The best dude in your rec league to LeBron James.
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BR1986FB
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Nov 22, 2013 3:36pm
LOL
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Zoltan
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Nov 22, 2013 3:41pm
He's trying way to hard to defend it, but he's mostly right. DMB is band of master musicians, but it doesn't mean you have to like their sound.
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Nov 22, 2013 3:42pm
Dude is 100% SQ.

Just keeps rambling on and on and on and on and on and on.....
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Nov 23, 2013 10:22am
WebFire;1539999 wrote:I think Michigan is rated where they belong.
Maybe as a has been? Too many people want those three to be back to elite every year. Really Michigan hasn't been there since 2007 now, Texas has been mediocre for the last 4 years and Notre Dame has developed no consistency at all. Neither are the program OSU, which has been around the top since '02 really, or even Wisconsin has been since '06 for that matter
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Nov 23, 2013 12:19pm
Musical skill is indeed quantifiable.

The problem is, the comparisons here are not the same piece of music. This is where Me?'s argument breaks down. If two people take a test, one gets a B, and the other gets a C. The former can indeed claim to be better than the latter.

However, if the first person takes Test 1 and gets a B, but the second person takes Test 12 and gets a C, there's no point of comparison.

If person A plays Claire de Lune on piano, and person B plays Boplicity on trumpet ... you can't compare the two.
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Nov 23, 2013 12:41pm
O-Trap;1541615 wrote:Musical skill is indeed quantifiable.

The problem is, the comparisons here are not the same piece of music. This is where Me?'s argument breaks down. If two people take a test, one gets a B, and the other gets a C. The former can indeed claim to be better than the latter.

However, if the first person takes Test 1 and gets a B, but the second person takes Test 12 and gets a C, there's no point of comparison.

If person A plays Claire de Lune on piano, and person B plays Boplicity on trumpet ... you can't compare the two.
This will be a great opportunity to see if Me? is SQ. You said his argument broke down. So wait for him to respond to that and see how close it is to this:

You're wrong you idiot! I'm tired of having this discussion with you because you're all too stupid to understand everything and I'm always right so I'm done with you. AND I'M NOT FUCKING MAD YOU GODDAMN FUCKING RETARDS I'M PERFECTLY CALM WHY CAN'T YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND I'M RIGHTRIGHTRIGHTRIGHTRIGHTRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anything within about 3-4 degrees of separation from that would indicate he is.
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Nov 23, 2013 1:12pm
Automatik;1541344 wrote:Dude is 100% SQ.

Just keeps rambling on and on and on and on and on and on.....
No dude, SQ is a coworker of his and SQ recommended this site to him, because he loved this site so much lolfail.
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Nov 23, 2013 10:00pm
Me?;1541249 wrote:That's completely false. Any musician will tell you that every member of DMB is as good as it gets musically, whether they're a fan of the sound they create or not. They wouldn't tell you the same about Nickelback.
link?

And what a ridiculous ridiculous claim
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Nov 23, 2013 10:04pm
Dave Matthews Band is overrated IMO
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Nov 23, 2013 10:12pm
Ironman92;1541891 wrote:Dave Matthews Band is overrated IMO
SQ disagrees.
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Nov 23, 2013 10:28pm
As do I. I happen to think DMB is comprised of fantastic musicians (Dave himself might be the weakest of the bunch, musically, though I contend that his composition is very creative).

So ... I guess I'm supposed to be angry at you guys now ...

... eh, the Dave wouldn't want that.
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Nov 23, 2013 10:40pm
O-Trap;1541919 wrote:As do I. I happen to think DMB is comprised of fantastic musicians (Dave himself might be the weakest of the bunch, musically, though I contend that his composition is very creative).

So ... I guess I'm supposed to be angry at you guys now ...

... eh, the Dave wouldn't want that.
I prefer my favorite bands to have a lead singer that can sing. I really don't care if he got an A on his music test. I hate their music....I'm sure the drummer, guitar and everyone are greatly talented....but I hate their sound.
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Nov 23, 2013 11:09pm
Ironman92;1541936 wrote:I prefer my favorite bands to have a lead singer that can sing. I really don't care if he got an A on his music test. I hate their music....I'm sure the drummer, guitar and everyone are greatly talented....but I hate their sound.
That's fair. It's a preference thing. There are a lot of musicians and bands I just don't like, even though a lot of other people seem to.