Archive Cleveland Cavaliers Season Thread: Kyrie for MVP!

like_that

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Jan 30, 2014 3:39pm

Commander of Awesome;1574370 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/231731/Kyrie-Irving-Privately-Telling-People-He-Wants-Out-Of-Cleveland

What a little bitch boy.

Don't look for a better job, do a better job Kyrie.

I stopped reading at "chad ford." The same guy who cited a waiter in Chicago in reference to Lebron of going to chi town.

Rotinaj

Posts: 7,699

Jan 30, 2014 9:09pm

This team is absolute trash. Ill probably be taking a week or 2 break from watching them at all. They aren't even remotely fun to watch anymore.

Pick6

Posts: 14,946

Jan 30, 2014 9:21pm

so Tiernan, can i start serving my ban now?

done with this fucking shit show unless some changes are made, and soon.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Jan 30, 2014 10:12pm

This is no fucking reason this team should be this bad. Not sure who to blame. Players, coaches, gm, fo and bill Simmons can all GFT.

Ironman92

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Jan 30, 2014 10:18pm

Commander of Awesome;1574575 wrote:This is no fucking reason this team should be this bad. Not sure who to blame. Players, coaches, gm, fo and bill Simmons can all GFT.

Obama

Mulva

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Jan 30, 2014 10:30pm

If you were guaranteed a top 3 pick in this year's draft for Kyrie, would you take it?

pmoney25

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Jan 30, 2014 10:31pm

Mulva;1574584 wrote:If you were guaranteed a top 3 pick in this year's draft for Kyrie, would you take it?

Yes, Kyrie is not a franchise elite player. Might as well try again

Midstate01

Posts: 14,766

Jan 30, 2014 10:45pm

Kyrie is awesome on offense. But I've seen 6th graders who can player better defense. He screws his teammates over and over. Ppl keep talking about him going to LA. But kobe would kill him.

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jan 30, 2014 10:57pm

No way I'd give up Kyrie for a top 3 pick this year

You can't have a lone superstar and expect to be very good.

ohiobucks1

Posts: 4,915

Jan 30, 2014 10:58pm

I'd give up Kyrie for #1. I'm not convinced he's a leader and I'd rather us build around Dion and a SF or C.

Lovejoy1984

Posts: 5,277

Jan 30, 2014 11:01pm

If we keep our pick, then yes. Movie Kyrie for the #1 pick.

Starting 5 next year of

Marcus Smart/Exum (Taken with CLE pick)
Dion Waiters
Deng
Thompson
Embiid (Taken #1)

Mulva

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Jan 30, 2014 11:59pm

SportsAndLady;1574596 wrote:No way I'd give up Kyrie for a top 3 pick this year

You can't have a lone superstar and expect to be very good.

A superstar is supposed to elevate the players around him.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Jan 31, 2014 12:04am

Also, building around Waiters? If anything, he's regressed this year. If you're an advanced stats guy, his numbers are atrocious.

427th in the NBA in offensive win shares, 200th in defensive win shares
370th in total win shares/48
313th in true shooting %
250th in PER
Negative wins produced for the season

http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/teams/cle

Fly4Fun

Posts: 7,730

Jan 31, 2014 6:59am

Commander of Awesome;1574575 wrote:This is no fucking reason this team should be this bad. Not sure who to blame. Players, coaches, gm, fo and bill Simmons can all GFT.

Mike Brown and anyone who thought it was a good idea to hire Mike Brown. The guy is simply not a NBA head coach. He couldn't get it done with LeBron. He sucked in LA. What made anyone think he was good at that point?

Rotinaj

Posts: 7,699

Jan 31, 2014 7:27am

Yea, lets trade our 21 year old AS PG for a draft pick. Forget the fact that our coach is a moron and about half of the team doesn't deserve to be in the league.

bases_loaded

Posts: 6,912

Jan 31, 2014 7:50am

Mulva;1574612 wrote:Also, building around Waiters? If anything, he's regressed this year. If you're an advanced stats guy, his numbers are atrocious.

427th in the NBA in offensive win shares, 200th in defensive win shares
370th in total win shares/48
313th in true shooting %
250th in PER
Negative wins produced for the season

http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/teams/cle

https://vine.co/v/MzAF9LdqP7b

Rotinaj

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Jan 31, 2014 7:52am

bases_loaded;1574639 wrote:https://vine.co/v/MzAF9LdqP7b

Waiters is a poor mans Irving.

bases_loaded

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Jan 31, 2014 8:01am

Rotinaj;1574641 wrote:Waiters is a poor mans Irving.

He's wide open. Our all star decided to go 1 on 3 instead of dishing it.

pmoney25

Posts: 1,787

Jan 31, 2014 8:04am

Other than Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas has a team where the Point Guard was the best player ever won a title?

Magic almost doesn't count since he could play pretty much any position.

I just don't think Kyrie is elite or going to be elite.

bases_loaded

Posts: 6,912

Jan 31, 2014 8:07am

I don't think there are many GMs around the league that think hes elite either...you would have to lose a trade if you trade him.

wes_mantooth

Posts: 17,977

Jan 31, 2014 8:16am

Kyrie is an all star because of his marketing as Uncle Drew...he doesn't deserve to be a there this year. There are plenty of other more deserving players who actually play defense and elevate the play of their teammates.

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jan 31, 2014 8:20am

bases_loaded;1574644 wrote:He's wide open. Our all star decided to go 1 on 3 instead of dishing it.

He's wide open 5 feet behind the 3 point line. That is a retarded vine and a retarded link to post to make a point.

Rotinaj

Posts: 7,699

Jan 31, 2014 8:21am

The funny thing is Waiters does the same shit. I just don't think those 2 are good together.

bases_loaded

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Jan 31, 2014 8:24am

SportsAndLady;1574652 wrote:He's wide open 5 feet behind the 3 point line. That is a retarded vine and a retarded link to post to make a point.

I forgot in basketball you have to shoot it from where you catch it

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Jan 31, 2014 8:25am

bases_loaded;1574655 wrote:I forgot in basketball you have to shoot it from where you catch it

Point is, anyone can take a 5 second video of a basketball game and make an out-of-context point.