reclegend22;1518533 wrote:

And yeah, Wal-Mart is pure trash. They don't even offer brand-names in many food items.

So what? Wal-Mart offers generic items and that makes them inferior? 99% of the time it's the same shit.

I wish I could neg you for that dumbass comment

I Wear Pants;1518801 wrote:

• Eligible Foods You Can Buy With A EBT Card In Ohio
• Fruits and vegetables
• Dairy products
• Cereals & Breads
• Plants or seeds that produce food to eat
• Meats, poultry and fish

• Non Eligible EBT Benefits Household Food items
• Beer, wine, liquor
• Food that will be eaten in the store
• Cigarettes or tobacco
• Hot foods
• Vitamins and medicines
• Non foods like:
  • Soaps and paper products
  • Pet foods
  • Household supplies

That's pretty stupid, how many people with EBT have the ability to cook? I wonder how much the participating stores enforce that. If I'm a Kroger cashier and someone tries to use their EBT for a roasted chicken I'd let them use it. It isn't any different than a cold chicken other than it is already cooked.

Manhattan Buckeye;1518809 wrote:That's pretty stupid, how many people with EBT have the ability to cook? I wonder how much the participating stores enforce that. If I'm a Kroger cashier and someone tries to use their EBT for a roasted chicken I'd let them use it. It isn't any different than a cold chicken other than it is already cooked.

Especially since you are allowed to buy soda with it...

Manhattan Buckeye;1518809 wrote:That's pretty stupid, how many people with EBT have the ability to cook? I wonder how much the participating stores enforce that. If I'm a Kroger cashier and someone tries to use their EBT for a roasted chicken I'd let them use it. It isn't any different than a cold chicken other than it is already cooked.

It's all electronic, I am pretty sure the cashier has absolutely no say unless they rang something else up in it's place, which then turns into theft.

LJ;1518815 wrote:It's all electronic, I am pretty sure the cashier has absolutely no say unless they rang something else up in it's place, which then turns into theft.

I believe you are correct.

Also worth noting: I don't think diapers are purchasable on EBT, which is a common complaint.

dlazz;1518816 wrote:I believe you are correct.

Also worth noting: I don't think diapers are purchasable on EBT, which is a common complaint.

If anything would cover it, I think it would be WIC. They should at least offer some kind of dicount. Diapers are expensive as shit.

Manhattan Buckeye;1518809 wrote:That's pretty stupid, how many people with EBT have the ability to cook? I wonder how much the participating stores enforce that. If I'm a Kroger cashier and someone tries to use their EBT for a roasted chicken I'd let them use it. It isn't any different than a cold chicken other than it is already cooked.

It's electronic. The cashiers don't approve or disapprove the purchases, if you had 10 eligible items and a bucket of fried chicken at Giant Eagle and used your EBT card the chicken would still be a balance that you would have to pay.

dlazz;1518805 wrote:So what? Wal-Mart offers generic items and that makes them inferior? 99% of the time it's the same shit.

I wish I could neg you for that dumbass comment

Go ahead. Wal-Mart fucking sucks.

I Wear Pants;1518823 wrote:It's electronic. The cashiers don't approve or disapprove the purchases, if you had 10 eligible items and a bucket of fried chicken at Giant Eagle and used your EBT card the chicken would still be a balance that you would have to pay.

Seem you know a lot about the EBT card are you a recipient of the entitlement program of the Democrat party to enslave the poor and needy. This must be why you are a voice of the socialist agenda.

Manhattan Buckeye;1518809 wrote:That's pretty stupid, how many people with EBT have the ability to cook? I wonder how much the participating stores enforce that. If I'm a Kroger cashier and someone tries to use their EBT for a roasted chicken I'd let them use it. It isn't any different than a cold chicken other than it is already cooked.

80% of SNAP households are non-disabled. Most of them are working poor with children. A majority of them single moms. Why would you think they can't cook. And, the standards are even stricter. I once saw a woman draw the ire and scorn of suburbanite stay-at-home soccer moms because she held up the grocery line with sliced cheese (which is disallowed) and the cashier had to run back and get her the block of cheese without slices.

In 'Murica we like to impose these pretty arbitrary standards on the use of food stamps because the stigmatization of the use of public assistance keeps teh p00rz in their place and reminds them that if they want to eat hot food they're going to have to work for it! You know, pull up the boot straps, stop whining, etc. even though most of them put in full time work. But remember, as you so eloquently pointed out in the McDonald's thread...their betters...you know those soccer moms that look on them with disdain...will come take their jobs if they try to bargain for better pay that wouldn't necessitate the use of SNAP cards.

reclegend22;1518825 wrote:Go ahead. Wal-Mart fucking sucks.

If you want to hate Wal-Mart, fine...but your rationale is awful.

By your logic, Aldi > Wal-Mart in terms of shittiness.

BoatShoes;1518831 wrote:80% of SNAP households are non-disabled. Most of them are working poor with children. A majority of them single moms. Why would you think they can't cook. And, the standards are even stricter. I once saw a woman draw the ire and scorn of suburbanite stay-at-home soccer moms because she held up the grocery line with sliced cheese (which is disallowed) and the cashier had to run back and get her the block of cheese without slices.

In 'Murica we like to impose these pretty arbitrary standards on the use of food stamps because the stigmatization of the use of public assistance keeps teh p00rz in their place and reminds them that if they want to eat hot food they're going to have to work for it! You know, pull up the boot straps, stop whining, etc. even though most of them put in full time work. But remember, as you so eloquently pointed out in the McDonald's thread...their betters...you know those soccer moms that look on them with disdain...will come take their jobs if they try to bargain for better pay that wouldn't necessitate the use of SNAP cards.

How is it abitrary. Maybe the block cheese is $.03/oz and sliced cheese is $.70/oz. Same thing with hot food.

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Belly35;1518830 wrote:Seem you know a lot about the EBT card are you a recipient of the entitlement program of the Democrat party to enslave the poor and needy. This must be why you are a voice of the socialist agenda.

Ah yes, if you know a little bit about a program you must be a member of it.

By that logic since you think you know about socialism you are a socialist.

I don't need EBT or other assistance programs thankfully, but it's pretty low to treat everyone who's on those programs like scum.

Fab4Runner;1518749 wrote:I think he means hot as in the rotisserie chickens, etc.

Ah, yes. Forgot about that type of stuff.

I'd agree with Manhattan Buckeye on this one. If our government is in fact going to offer benefits such as these, then it definitely would seem like a rotisserie chicken should be acceptable for underprivileged families that might not have anything more than a microwave.

reclegend22;1518841 wrote:Ah, yes. Forgot about that type of stuff.

I'd agree with Manhattan Buckeye on this one. If our government is in fact going to offer benefits such as these, then it definitely would seem like a rotisserie chicken should be acceptable for underprivileged families that might not have anything more than a microwave.

I imagine most have a stove/oven. I have no facts to back that up but I'd be surprised if there was a significant amount of people with only a microwave.

But yeah, a rotisserie chicken is something that I don't see being unreasonable to purchase with EBT. Though things like fried chicken, etc I get the want to restrict so there'd be confusing and weird lines drawn unless we just allowed all hot foods.

reclegend22;1518841 wrote:Ah, yes. Forgot about that type of stuff.

I'd agree with Manhattan Buckeye on this one. If our government is in fact going to offer benefits such as these, then it definitely would seem like a rotisserie chicken should be acceptable for underprivileged families that might not have anything more than a microwave.

Stove/microwave argument aside, those chickens are pretty tasty and so much more convenient than roasting one yourself. You can use it in a lot of different ways.

dlazz;1518833 wrote:If you want to hate Wal-Mart, fine...but your rationale is awful.

By your logic, Aldi > Wal-Mart in terms of shittiness.

That probably wasn't the best reason to give, I'll give you that, but there are certain brands -- Welch's Grape Juice, for example -- that I like that are not available at every Wal-Mart. And despite what you may think, there are in fact differences in store-brand and name-brand items in certain situations. Wal-Mart's store brands are, in many cases, cheaper products and the differences are not always negligible.

My main reason for not going to Wal-Mart is the client base. It's like visiting a Third World country.

Fab4Runner;1518845 wrote:Stove/microwave argument aside, those chickens are pretty tasty and so much more convenient than roasting one yourself. You can use it in a lot of different ways.

I agree with this. I enjoy them. Just don't get them very often, which is why I completely forgot about them.

LJ;1518834 wrote:How is it abitrary. Maybe the block cheese is $.03/oz and sliced cheese is $.70/oz. Same thing with hot food.

Arbitrary was probably the wrong word. Punitive, demeaning, repugnant, condescending were probably more appropriate adjectives.

'Why would you think they can't cook.'

because ovens and cooking gear is expensive. It costs us more to buy a cold chicken and prepare it the way we like as opposed to purchasing a prepared one at the market, and that ignores the upfront cost of the gear. My guess is that most EBT recipients don't have viking ovens, le creuset (or however you spell it) roasting pans and the means to purchase olive oil and spices to properly cook a bird. And then you have to wash the pan. It isn't easy to roast a chicken - you don't just throw it in the oven - and that assumes the recipients own an oven that actually works. Plus with a prepared bird it comes with its own container that you can put in the fridge. If you cook your own you have to purchase another container for leftovers - and then have to clean the container.

I prefer Virginia's law - if you can't eat it on the premises, you can buy it. Ohio's law seems arbitrary, and stupid.

BoatShoes;1518849 wrote:Arbitrary was probably the wrong word. Punitive, demeaning, repugnant, condescending were probably more appropriate adjectives.

Again, how?

If you get $50 in EBT, why would the .gov let you spend that money on 10oz of cheese for $7, rather than say, 3-4 lbs for the same price? Why would the .gov let you spend money meant for food on alcohol and tobacco?

Manhattan Buckeye;1518853 wrote:'Why would you think they can't cook.'

because ovens and cooking gear is expensive.

If they are on section 8 or vouchers, they have a working oven.

reclegend22;1518846 wrote:
My main reason for not going to Wal-Mart is the client base. It's like visiting a Third World country.

How many Third World Country's have you been to?

BoatShoes;1518849 wrote:Arbitrary was probably the wrong word. Punitive, demeaning, repugnant, condescending were probably more appropriate adjectives.

Poor people are poor in the long run because they consistently make poor choices. Why would we want that to be anything other than punitive and demeaning? Why incentive stupid behavior?

I'd be for a system in which every time an EBT card is used, they announce over the speaker the name and location of the EBT user "EBT user LaShaqinua Johnson spent $40 of taxpayer dollars on Ruffles potato chips and Mountain Dew on register 3. Have a nice day". Demeaning, yes. Appropriate and accurate, absolutely.