sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 23, 2013 6:49pm
Michigan State should be top 5 after today.rydawg5;1541771 wrote:Will Michigan St jump Oregon and Stanford after this?
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 23, 2013 6:52pm
No, top 10. I'd still take Auburn, Stanford, Mizzou, and Clemson over MSU.sleeper;1541801 wrote:Michigan State should be top 5 after today.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 23, 2013 6:55pm
They've lost 1 game.ptown_trojans_1;1541803 wrote:No, top 10. I'd still take Auburn, Stanford, Mizzou, and Clemson over MSU.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 23, 2013 6:59pm
at least half of manziel's success has to be credited to evans.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Nov 23, 2013 7:02pm
Horrible read
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 23, 2013 7:15pm
Stanford has looked better better and has the better win over MSU.sleeper;1541804 wrote:They've lost 1 game.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 23, 2013 7:16pm
You do know they have lost to Utah and USC, right?ptown_trojans_1;1541812 wrote:Stanford has looked better better and has the better win over MSU.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 23, 2013 7:20pm
Correct.wildcats20;1541813 wrote:You do know they have lost to Utah and USC, right?
But, honestly who has MSU played that merits them to jump Stanford?
Stanford has 5 wins over ranked teams, MSU has 1 at this point.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Nov 23, 2013 7:23pm
I know MSU didn't lose to a 4-7 Utah team who is winless in the Pac12 besides their win over Stanford.ptown_trojans_1;1541816 wrote:Correct.
But, honestly who has MSU played that merits them to jump Stanford?
Stanford has 4 wins over ranked teams.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 23, 2013 7:27pm
Fresno State hasn't lose to Notre Dame. Should they be ahead of Michigan State?Fly4Fun;1541818 wrote:I know MSU didn't lose to a 4-7 Utah team who is winless in the Pac12 besides their win over Stanford.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 23, 2013 7:29pm
Stanford has beaten 5 ranked teams, 3 in the top 15, including 3 straight over ranked teams. MSU can't say that.Fly4Fun;1541818 wrote:I know MSU didn't lose to a 4-7 Utah team who is winless in the Pac12 besides their win over Stanford.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Nov 23, 2013 7:30pm
Swing and a miss.Mulva;1541819 wrote:Fresno State hasn't lose to Notre Dame. Should they be ahead of Michigan State?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Nov 23, 2013 7:32pm
Record of MSU lossesptown_trojans_1;1541820 wrote:Stanford has beaten 4 ranked teams, 2 in the top 15, MSU can't say that.
8-3
Record of Stanford losses 12-10
# of MSU losses 1
# of Stanford losses 2
Stanford is more beatable than MSU
MSU should be ranked above Stanford.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 23, 2013 7:33pm
Rankings are bullshit anyway. Florida was ranked in the top 25 for most of the season and they just lost to an FCS school. LOLptown_trojans_1;1541820 wrote:Stanford has beaten 5 ranked teams, 3 in the top 15, MSU can't say that.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 23, 2013 7:35pm
Let me go ahead and just tweak the F4F sentence.LJ;1541821 wrote:Swing and a miss.
"I know Fresno State didn't lose to anyone, unlike Michigan State".
But yeah, swing and a miss.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 23, 2013 7:37pm
And in case you didn't catch it, my point was how stupid that argument was to say MSU should be ahead of Stanford. I'm in no way saying Fresno State should be ahead of MSU.LJ;1541821 wrote:Swing and a miss.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 23, 2013 7:59pm
I understand ya, but just am saying Stanford's overall and best is better than MSU has this year. As in, Stanford's good trumps MSU's.LJ;1541822 wrote:Record of MSU losses
8-3
Record of Stanford losses 12-10
# of MSU losses 1
# of Stanford losses 2
Stanford is more beatable than MSU
MSU should be ranked above Stanford.
That is how I rank teams.
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vball10set
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Nov 23, 2013 8:07pm
GO COWBOYS!!!!
pmoney25
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Nov 23, 2013 8:07pm
None of it matters, Rose Bowl bound.
believer
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Nov 23, 2013 8:16pm
thispmoney25;1541836 wrote:None of it matters, Rose Bowl bound.
And it's not a bad gig.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 23, 2013 8:17pm
When you're undefeated, the championship is all that matters. If it isn't, you're doing it wrong.believer;1541839 wrote:this
And it's not a bad gig.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 23, 2013 8:17pm
Agreed.pmoney25;1541836 wrote:None of it matters, Rose Bowl bound.
Love the Rose Bowl.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 23, 2013 8:19pm
But, if the 2 teams ahead of you are better, it doesn't matter.Mulva;1541840 wrote:When you're undefeated, the championship is all that matters. If it isn't, you're doing it wrong.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Nov 23, 2013 8:22pm
It doesn't matter.ptown_trojans_1;1541842 wrote:But, if the 2 teams ahead of you are better, it doesn't matter.
Buckeyes need to win out and hope Alabama gets beat either by Auburn or in the SEC championship to have a shot. Possible but I wouldn't put money on it.
The Rose Bowl is a great "consolation" prize.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Nov 23, 2013 8:27pm
Probably a minority opinion but Florida State is not better than Ohio State. They're good but I'm not buying the Kool aid.ptown_trojans_1;1541842 wrote:But, if the 2 teams ahead of you are better, it doesn't matter.