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Nov 17, 2013 9:11 PM
Here is the road I think OSU takes to the BCS Championship game. (This road has Baylor winning out as well)

Nov 17, 2013 9:11pm
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Nov 17, 2013 9:17 PM
In my scenario the BCS Bowls would look like this:

BCS Championship game:

OSU vs FSU

Rose Bowl

Oregon Vs Wisconsin

Sugar Bowl

South Carolina vs ucf?

Orange Bowl

Clemson vs Alabama

Fiesta Bowl

Baylor vs Northern Ill

or something like that..
Nov 17, 2013 9:17pm
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Nov 17, 2013 9:25 PM
too bad this board sucks
Nov 17, 2013 9:25pm
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Nov 17, 2013 9:42 PM
you have alabama dropping out of the top 10 with a loss to auburn?
Nov 17, 2013 9:42pm
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Nov 17, 2013 9:44 PM
BCS Predictions as of 11/17 - Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl is the selection order. The Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl will also lose their automatic bids (Sugar #1 and Orange #2), so they will select their first team before the at-larges are picked.

Alabama (BCS #1) vs Florida State (BCS #2) - BCS National Championship
Ohio State (B1G auto) vs Oregon (Pac 12 auto) - Rose Bowl
Baylor (Big XII auto) vs Fresno State (#4 at-large/automatic top 12 non-BCS team) - Fiesta Bowl
Texas A&M (SEC auto replacement #1 pick) vs Wisconsin (#3 at-large)
Clemson (ACC auto replacement 2 pick) vs Central Florida (AAC auto)
Nov 17, 2013 9:44pm
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Nov 17, 2013 9:47 PM
Hey rydawg, we're the same basically. I think A&M will be a big draw if they only have 2 losses and would get picked over South Carolina.

With that said, I kind of want to see A&M drop and end up in the Cotton Bowl vs Oklahoma. That would be AWESOME!
Nov 17, 2013 9:47pm
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Nov 17, 2013 9:49 PM
gorocks99;1537656 wrote:I think in this case MSU is Mississippi State, given the context of the conversation. Could be wrong and Azu is kind of crazy.
Yes, I mean Mississippi State. Someone called them one of the worst teams in big time college football and I was pointing out that there are at least 20 BCS teams worse...including almost the entire AAC, ACC and the bottom 4 in the B1G and a few in the Pac 12 and SEC.
Nov 17, 2013 9:49pm
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Nov 17, 2013 9:56 PM
No I don't have Alabama out of top 10 - but I think I did on that spreadsheet. I do have them losing to Auburn but staying top 5.
Nov 17, 2013 9:56pm
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Nov 17, 2013 9:58 PM
Azubuike24;1537738 wrote:BCS Predictions as of 11/17 - Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl is the selection order. The Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl will also lose their automatic bids (Sugar #1 and Orange #2), so they will select their first team before the at-larges are picked.

Alabama (BCS #1) vs Florida State (BCS #2) - BCS National Championship
Ohio State (B1G auto) vs Oregon (Pac 12 auto) - Rose Bowl
Baylor (Big XII auto) vs Fresno State (#4 at-large/automatic top 12 non-BCS team) - Fiesta Bowl
Texas A&M (SEC auto replacement #1 pick) vs Wisconsin (#3 at-large)
Clemson (ACC auto replacement 2 pick) vs Central Florida (AAC auto)
Those games fucking suck

Except for Bama FSU
Nov 17, 2013 9:58pm
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Nov 17, 2013 10:01 PM
Azubuike24;1537738 wrote:BCS Predictions as of 11/17 - Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl is the selection order. The Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl will also lose their automatic bids (Sugar #1 and Orange #2), so they will select their first team before the at-larges are picked.

Alabama (BCS #1) vs Florida State (BCS #2) - BCS National Championship
Ohio State (B1G auto) vs Oregon (Pac 12 auto) - Rose Bowl
Baylor (Big XII auto) vs Fresno State (#4 at-large/automatic top 12 non-BCS team) - Fiesta Bowl
Texas A&M (SEC auto replacement #1 pick) vs Wisconsin (#3 at-large)
Clemson (ACC auto replacement 2 pick) vs Central Florida (AAC auto)
Hopefully (and i think they do) NIU jumps Fresno with wins over Toledo and Bufallo/BG
Nov 17, 2013 10:01pm
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Nov 17, 2013 10:34 PM
SportsAndLady;1537750 wrote:Those games fucking suck

Except for Bama FSU
I think Wisconsin/Texas A&M would be entertaining as hell.

I agree on the other ones, but that's what happens when you let the AAC get an automatic bid. It kills the match-ups.

Hey Baylor, you go 12-0, beat the shit out of everyone you play and score 700 points on the season. Your reward? A meaningless bowl game that nobody will watch where you will play a non-BCS opponent who has nothing to lose.

Hell, if OSU and Baylor can't make the title game, I'd love to see them play. Or, A&M vs Baylor. A game that would be ridiculously entertaining.
Nov 17, 2013 10:34pm
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Nov 17, 2013 11:13 PM
You also had SC beating Clemson but getting jumped by MSU???
Nov 17, 2013 11:13pm
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Nov 17, 2013 11:42 PM
I was thinking at some point MSU would be a 1 loss team worthy of being over all 2 loss teams, but you are probably right.
Nov 17, 2013 11:42pm
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Nov 18, 2013 12:36 PM
Sparty's Defense looks like world beaters but then again it goes back to the whole B1G argument of who have they played? Buckeyes cannot give MSU the brush off like they did the Illini or Dantonio will be heading to the Rose.
Nov 18, 2013 12:36pm
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Nov 18, 2013 12:36 PM
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Nov 18, 2013 12:36pm
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Nov 18, 2013 1:11 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1537276 wrote:I do. The Bucks have only been in the Rose Bowl twice since the 90s.
The Rose Bowl is the goal every year for OSU fans.
Sure, the BCS Title game is awesome, but traditionally, it is the Rose Bowl.
This ain't the 80's anymore ptown. I would imagine most Buckeye fans care about the NCG more than the Rose Bowl.
Nov 18, 2013 1:11pm
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Nov 18, 2013 4:44 PM
Am I the only one that wishes there was a way (if we go undefeated and dont make the NC) that we play Baylor? Is it even possible?
Nov 18, 2013 4:44pm
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Nov 18, 2013 4:52 PM
ohiobucks1;1538191 wrote:Am I the only one that wishes there was a way (if we go undefeated and dont make the NC) that we play Baylor? Is it even possible?
For all intents and purposes, no.

Tradition dictated that the Rose Bowl is the Big 10 vs. Pac 10 champions. When the BCS came into play, I think they made it a rule that they'd respect that when the Rose Bowl wasn't the site for the NC game and if neither conference was in the NC game.

And so it'll be OSU against the Pac 10 champ, regardless of whether OSU vs Baylor makes more sense on every single level other than fucking meaningless pointless tradition.

But that's college football in a nutshell. Great onfield play and the occasional good idea constantly marred by a stubborn reliance on tradition and an ineffectual bureaucracy and (now, as far as at least the Big 10 goes) this stupid-ass idea that good TV markets make a good conference, even if the teams stink.
Nov 18, 2013 4:52pm
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Nov 19, 2013 12:31 PM
Ohio State/Oregon, while that's a "been there, done that" match-up, would still be very entertaining.

Baylor, even if they win out, will not only likely get screwed on the title game, but they will end up in the lowest-tiered bowl (and with the 5th out of 5 at-large selections). They will end up playing Fresno State, Northern Illinois, Notre Dame or some other 2-3-loss team that didn't win their conference.

That's the only gripe with the BCS. Not the rankings. Not the calculations or polls. The lack of flexibility. College football is an unbalanced format and even with a playoff system, the lack of flexibility is concerning.
Nov 19, 2013 12:31pm
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Nov 19, 2013 3:57 PM
doesnt the B1G and PAC 12 have something to do with that with the tradition of the Rose Bowl being protected, though?
Nov 19, 2013 3:57pm
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Nov 19, 2013 4:05 PM
I asked this a few weeks ago...

Big10/Pac12 locked in the Rose Bowl unless the conference winner plays in the title game, then another team can get the bid.....ala TCU/Wisky a few years back.
Nov 19, 2013 4:05pm
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Nov 19, 2013 4:15 PM
Automatik;1539045 wrote:I asked this a few weeks ago...

Big10/Pac12 locked in the Rose Bowl unless the conference winner plays in the title game, then another team can get the bid.....ala TCU/Wisky a few years back.
yeah, I understand. I'm just saying if you're an OSU fan, and are pissed about lack of flexibility (I wouldn't mind Oregon again), dont blame the NCAA, blame the B1G for wanting to protect sacred "tradition". Playing the same teams over and over again sucks in a bowl game.
Nov 19, 2013 4:15pm
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Nov 19, 2013 4:17 PM
I'm curious to see how this will all workout next year with the playoff. What bowls will host the games? Conference winners go out the window? I haven't looked into it much.
Nov 19, 2013 4:17pm
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Nov 19, 2013 4:20 PM
Automatik;1539050 wrote:I'm curious to see how this will all workout next year with the playoff. What bowls will host the games? Conference winners go out the window? I haven't looked into it much.
Rose and Sugar
Orange and Cotton
Fiesta and Peach

Three year cycles.
Nov 19, 2013 4:20pm