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brutus161

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Jul 29, 2013 10:37 AM
I haven't downloaded torrents in a while (last did it when demonoid was around). What are some good sites to use now?
Jul 29, 2013 10:37am
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Mohican00

Dirty White Boy

3,394 posts
Jul 29, 2013 10:41 AM
File sharing, sir, is illegal and I'll have nothing to do with it!
Jul 29, 2013 10:41am
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wes_mantooth

Tomfoolery & shenanigans

17,977 posts
Jul 29, 2013 11:07 AM
I use kickasstorrents....wait, I mean...I would use that if i did illegal things.
Jul 29, 2013 11:07am
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ohiobucks1

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4,915 posts
Jul 29, 2013 11:41 AM
A kid I lived with got a letter once that said if he didn't stop torrenting he would get sued by the MPAA. I've always been afraid to do it, since.
Jul 29, 2013 11:41am
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 29, 2013 11:48 AM
ohiobucks1;1479699 wrote:A kid I lived with got a letter once that said if he didn't stop torrenting he would get sued by the MPAA. I've always been afraid to do it, since.
They send those letters out all of the time. We got "caught" once because my idiot roommate was downloading stuff from thepiratebay. Entourage, I think.
Jul 29, 2013 11:48am
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ohiobucks1

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Jul 29, 2013 11:49 AM
dlazz;1479709 wrote:They send those letters out all of the time. We got "caught" once because my idiot roommate was downloading stuff from thepiratebay. Entourage, I think.
Why is that bad?
Jul 29, 2013 11:49am
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 29, 2013 11:53 AM
ohiobucks1;1479711 wrote:Why is that bad?
They send those letters as scare tactics.

"sharing" the content is where they get you. If you're just downloading/streaming they tend to leave you alone. When you download stuff on a torrent you automatically share what you've downloaded. Setting your torrent client to use no upstream bandwidth is still sharing, as your IP address is shared with the swarm.
Jul 29, 2013 11:53am
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wes_mantooth

Tomfoolery & shenanigans

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Jul 29, 2013 11:53 AM
I use a peer blocker which some say is a waste. The thing I did that helped the most was reducing my upload speeds to virtually nothing.

I never got a letter but time Warner shut me down on fast five a year or two ago. I had to call in and get my service started back up
Jul 29, 2013 11:53am
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 29, 2013 11:54 AM
wes_mantooth;1479714 wrote:I use a peer blocker which some say is a waste.
It is.
Jul 29, 2013 11:54am
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GoChiefs

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Jul 29, 2013 1:19 PM
extratorrent.com
isohunt.com
Jul 29, 2013 1:19pm
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brutus161

The Navy Guy

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Jul 29, 2013 1:50 PM
wes_mantooth;1479673 wrote:I use kickasstorrents....wait, I mean...I would use that if i did illegal things.
Thanks for that. I would start to use that site if I were to illegally download torrents.
Jul 29, 2013 1:50pm
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ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

24,984 posts
Jul 29, 2013 1:58 PM
Thanks to this thread, I will not download torrents.
Jul 29, 2013 1:58pm
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thavoice

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14,376 posts
Jul 29, 2013 2:23 PM
I thought this was about the disorder where you blurt out stuff all the time. PISS. BALLS. SHIT.
Jul 29, 2013 2:23pm
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lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Jul 29, 2013 2:45 PM
I have never ever had an issue with torrents and I download at least 1 a week. As soon as the torrent is downloaded, I delete it from uTorrent and close utorrent so I'm never "uploading" anything.
Jul 29, 2013 2:45pm
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 29, 2013 3:34 PM
lhslep134;1479808 wrote:I have never ever had an issue with torrents and I download at least 1 a week. As soon as the torrent is downloaded, I delete it from uTorrent and close utorrent so I'm never "uploading" anything.

You're uploading as the torrent is downloading. That's how BitTorrent works
Jul 29, 2013 3:34pm
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lhslep134

why so serious?

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Jul 29, 2013 4:50 PM
dlazz;1479839 wrote:You're uploading as the torrent is downloading. That's how BitTorrent works
Yeah I should have clarified that.

Essentially my files are uploading for the minimal amount of time possible, only as they're downloading
Jul 29, 2013 4:50pm
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 29, 2013 5:21 PM
lhslep134;1479858 wrote:Yeah I should have clarified that.

Essentially my files are uploading for the minimal amount of time possible, only as they're downloading

Doesn't make you any less innocent.
Jul 29, 2013 5:21pm
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lhslep134

why so serious?

9,774 posts
Jul 29, 2013 5:31 PM
dlazz;1479864 wrote:Doesn't make you any less innocent.
Never claimed to be
Jul 29, 2013 5:31pm
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Heretic

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18,820 posts
Jul 29, 2013 5:42 PM
dlazz;1479864 wrote:Doesn't make you any less innocent.
According to the bible, we were all born into sin.

Therefore, LIVE IT THE FUCK UP, BRO!!!!!
Jul 29, 2013 5:42pm
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Devils Advocate

Brudda o da bomber

4,539 posts
Jul 29, 2013 6:30 PM
Heretic;1479869 wrote:According to the bible, we were all born into sin.

Therefore, LIVE IT THE **** UP, BRO!!!!!
It also says that there is a man in the sky that loves you. But if you sin you spend eternity in a lake of fire.


Hope this helps, or rather where do you get fire swimming lessons?
Jul 29, 2013 6:30pm
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 29, 2013 6:30 PM
Heretic;1479869 wrote:According to the bible, we were all born into sin.

Therefore, LIVE IT THE FUCK UP, BRO!!!!!

I'd rather not live it up in JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOPE THIS HELPS
Jul 29, 2013 6:30pm
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Heretic

Son of the Sun

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Jul 29, 2013 6:51 PM
Devils Advocate;1479885 wrote:It also says that there is a man in the sky that loves you. But if you sin you spend eternity in a lake of fire.


Hope this helps, or rather where do you get fire swimming lessons?
I figure you just get used to it after awhile. You know, like regular heat and cold, you just build and immunity to it.
Jul 29, 2013 6:51pm
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hasbeen

Excuse me, Flo?

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Jul 29, 2013 8:58 PM
Kat.ph
Jul 29, 2013 8:58pm
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wes_mantooth

Tomfoolery & shenanigans

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Jul 29, 2013 10:53 PM
lhslep134;1479858 wrote:Yeah I should have clarified that.

Essentially my files are uploading for the minimal amount of time possible, only as they're downloading
yeah, I got warned a couple times over the years, so I went into the settings and turned the upload down to the minimum with is like 1 KB/sec I believe
Jul 29, 2013 10:53pm
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 29, 2013 11:58 PM
wes_mantooth;1480016 wrote:yeah, I got warned a couple times over the years, so I went into the settings and turned the upload down to the minimum with is like 1 KB/sec I believe
This doesn't help and won't stop warning letters. You have to understand how Bittorrent works:

A .torrent file is a small file that contains a tracker URL, and a list of hashes for the pieces of files in the torrent. This is what you end up downloading from thepiratebay or whatever. The torrent sites remain "legal" because they aren't hosting anything illegal...the torrents are just pointers and checksums for the files that are shared by others in the swarm.

When you first load a torrent into a bittorrent client it:

1) reads the hashtable and gets a list of all of the files contained within the package.
2)attempts to contact the tracker contained within the torrent to get a list of available IP addresses (other bittorrent users who have the same torrent) to download it from. (This is where peerblock/setting your upload to 1KB is worthless) Once your client has a list of IP addresses to download from, the tracker will add you to the same list of IP addresses it just requested.
3) the client then starts trying to connect to all of those IP addresses it just received. Each IP address it successfully connects to will reply back "Yeah, i have X amount of pieces". If you check out the "peers" tab of your client, it'll show the IP address, the percentage of the torrent they have completed, as well as the number of pieces.

If you ever look at the files tab of your torrent client (if it has one) you'll notice that it downloads random chunks until the download is 100% complete. As each individual chunk completes, your torrent client will report to the swarm that you have it and it's available to others.

The client will usually say somewhere, like "4000 pieces @ 1MB", meaning the torrent is 4000MB and each "chunk" is 1MB in size.

People with all 4000 pieces are seeders. People with less than 4000 are leechers. When you're downloading a torrent, as long as you have a single completed piece, you are sharing part of that torrent. Peerblock or setting your upload speed to 1KB is not going to help you get away from that. All the "internet police" would have to do is scrape the tracker and get a list of hosts. Then they have all of the evidence they need to take you to court for copyright infringement since they know someone from your IP address was sharing xyz at a certain time.

The tracker is also a single point of failure: if the tracker doesn't respond at all, the download will simply never start since the client can never get a list of hosts with the file. Ever load up a torrent and it sits at 0%? This is probably why.

Newer clients can operate without a tracker, but a good majority of torrent sites still rely on trackers to handle the swarm of potential sharers.


I say for the first time ever in a serious manner:
Hope this helps.
Jul 29, 2013 11:58pm