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Jul 26, 2013 10:49 AM
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge

If I had the funds to pay full price for one right now I probably would. Looks great and packs 4GB of ram and 128GB of storage. Not bad.

[video=youtube;eQLe3iIMN7k][/video]
Jul 26, 2013 10:49am
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Jul 26, 2013 12:00 PM
So it may or may not be any better than the iPhone, depending on it's low light performance. Still though, open source could be amazing. I'm doubtful it will happen though, only have 27 days to raise $24 mil. Does look like a slick phone though.
Jul 26, 2013 12:00pm
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Jul 26, 2013 12:15 PM
Commander of Awesome;1478963 wrote:So it may or may not be any better than the iPhone, depending on it's low light performance. Still though, open source could be amazing. I'm doubtful it will happen though, only have 27 days to raise $24 mil. Does look like a slick phone though.
It's only been up for 4 days and they already have $6.5m
Jul 26, 2013 12:15pm
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Jul 26, 2013 4:21 PM
justincredible;1478970 wrote:It's only been up for 4 days and they already have $6.5m
I'd expect that pace to fall dramatically after the pop they got. I think they'll be lucky to get half their goal, in which case a big thank you to everyone for their corporate charity.

Not sure if and when that phone actually comes out that there won't be name brands with even more powerful offerings that dual-boot Windows. This just feels like a great opportunity to get in on Betamax.
Jul 26, 2013 4:21pm
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Jul 26, 2013 4:31 PM
gut;1479089 wrote:I think they'll be lucky to get half their goal, in which case a big thank you to everyone for their corporate charity.
Forgive me if I misunderstood this sentence, but if they don't fund 100% of their goal no one is charged.
Jul 26, 2013 4:31pm
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Jul 26, 2013 4:51 PM
justincredible;1479091 wrote:...but if they don't fund 100% of their goal no one is charged.
They SAY they will refund the money. I wouldn't hold my breath.
Jul 26, 2013 4:51pm
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Jul 26, 2013 5:06 PM
gut;1479096 wrote:They SAY they will refund the money. I wouldn't hold my breath.
I don't think you understand how these crowdfunding sites work. The funds are not even captured unless it hits 100% or more in the given time frame. If it doesn't hit $32m no one will be charged. Period.
Jul 26, 2013 5:06pm
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Jul 26, 2013 5:07 PM
This campaign will only receive funds if at least $32,000,000 is raised by Wed 21 Aug 11:59PM PT.
These sites would not work if this weren't the model for collecting funds.
Jul 26, 2013 5:07pm
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Jul 26, 2013 5:52 PM
I wonder how they handle the trolls then. For example I may only have a credit card with a $5k balance, whats to stop me from saying sure I'll signing up for the $80k model?
Jul 26, 2013 5:52pm
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Jul 26, 2013 5:56 PM
justincredible;1479099 wrote:I don't think you understand how these crowdfunding sites work.
That's irrelevant to what they are actually doing, and I don't imagine there is a contract to read the fine print. They say they will REFUND, not "not charge" you. Again, I'm only going off what their website says, and I say good luck - literally - getting your refund. Some of these sites do, in fact, treat the funds as donations.

And what if the phones never ship, or they have a cost overrun. Then what?
Jul 26, 2013 5:56pm
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Jul 27, 2013 10:04 AM
gut;1479116 wrote:That's irrelevant to what they are actually doing, and I don't imagine there is a contract to read the fine print. They say they will REFUND, not "not charge" you. Again, I'm only going off what their website says, and I say good luck - literally - getting your refund. Some of these sites do, in fact, treat the funds as donations.

And what if the phones never ship, or they have a cost overrun. Then what?
Different situations, one is theft and/or fraud, the other is the natural risk of investing in a start-up operation.
Jul 27, 2013 10:04am
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Jul 27, 2013 10:38 AM
The folks at Ubuntu aren't going to screw anyone over. That would be devastating to their mission.

I do see where this platform allows for two different types of funding. One where they will still fund even if they don't reach their goal and one where, like I say, nothing is charged until they hit 100%.
Jul 27, 2013 10:38am
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Jul 27, 2013 11:30 AM
justincredible;1479273 wrote:The folks at Ubuntu aren't going to screw anyone over.

How on earth do you know that?
Jul 27, 2013 11:30am
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 27, 2013 7:37 PM
I could see this thing being a buggy pile of shit.
Jul 27, 2013 7:37pm
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Jul 29, 2013 3:05 AM
dlazz;1479348 wrote:I could see this thing being a buggy pile of shit.

Yeah...more than likely. Just like the first nexus phone.

Cool idea though
Jul 29, 2013 3:05am
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Jul 29, 2013 7:59 AM
dlazz;1479348 wrote:I could see this thing being a buggy pile of ****.

Are you implying that Ubuntu is a buggy OS?
Jul 29, 2013 7:59am
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Jul 29, 2013 8:50 AM
SportsAndLady;1479277 wrote:How on earth do you know that?
That would be devastating to their mission.
Jul 29, 2013 8:50am
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 29, 2013 10:09 AM
Jawbreaker;1479607 wrote:Are you implying that Ubuntu is a buggy OS?
No, I am not. From what I gathered from the video, it seems as though they're putting beta hardware into the device.
Jul 29, 2013 10:09am
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Jul 30, 2013 8:37 AM
dlazz;1479651 wrote:No, I am not. From what I gathered from the video, it seems as though they're putting beta hardware into the device.
Phone is a year or two out...that hardware will probably be mid-tier by then.
Jul 30, 2013 8:37am
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 30, 2013 9:07 AM
gut;1480168 wrote:Phone is a year or two out...that hardware will probably be mid-tier by then.
Then it's going against most of what he said in the video.
Jul 30, 2013 9:07am
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Jul 30, 2013 9:24 AM
dlazz;1480177 wrote:Then it's going against most of what he said in the video.
It's cutting edge hardware by today's standards, but in a year or two when that phone comes out simply nothing other than marketing hype. The "cutting edge" is dual booting a full laptop OS.

The only reason we don't have a phone with 128gigs of storage and 4gigs of ram now is cost - no one is going to sell that phone for $800 because hardly anyone would buy it.
Jul 30, 2013 9:24am
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MontyBrunswick

Jul 30, 2013 9:48 AM
gut;1480186 wrote:no one is going to sell that phone for $800 because hardly anyone would buy it.
Phones are already in the $600-700 realm, they're just subsidized by locking users into contracts.
Jul 30, 2013 9:48am
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Jul 30, 2013 9:52 AM
dlazz;1480197 wrote:Phones are already in the $600-700 realm, they're just subsidized by locking users into contracts.
Yes, but this one is going for upwards of $800. $150-$200 would buy you that extra ram and storage. Nothing else about the specs stand out, even by today's standards.
Jul 30, 2013 9:52am
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Jul 30, 2013 8:38 PM
gut;1479116 wrote:That's irrelevant to what they are actually doing, and I don't imagine there is a contract to read the fine print. They say they will REFUND, not "not charge" you. Again, I'm only going off what their website says, and I say good luck - literally - getting your refund. Some of these sites do, in fact, treat the funds as donations.

And what if the phones never ship, or they have a cost overrun. Then what?
That's not how Kickstarter or Indiegogo work.
Jul 30, 2013 8:38pm