 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 9:56pm
                            
                        Laley23;1473529 wrote:Also, I now dont want Masterson to pitch. I just learned Cleveland will push his next start to Sunday if he pitches today instead of Friday. Fuck that noise!
It is mental softness that these guys warming up and throwing 16 pitches would make a pitcher back up 2 more days.
                                        
                                            M
                                        
                                    
                                                                mhs95_06
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 8,167
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:14pm
                            
                        I'll grant you that, even if both give maximum effort. But I submit the BP's average effort on all his runs to 1st base is 10% to 20% less than Wright's average percent of max effort. Say David Wright averages 85% of his max effort on all runs to 1B, then I'm saying BP averages only 65% to 75% of his own max effort.Ironman92;1473510 wrote:Wright is faster to 1st than BP
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:17pm
                            
                        mhs95_06;1473542 wrote:I'll grant you that, even if both give maximum effort. But I submit the BP's average effort on all his runs to 1st base is 10% to 20% less than Wright's average percent of max effort. Say David Wright averages 85% of his max effort on all runs to 1B, then I'm saying BP averages only 65% to 75% of his own max effort.
I like numbers....but simply put David Wright plays the game consistently harder than Brandon Phillips, as do many.
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:17pm
                            
                        
                                EE bails out Chappy
                            
                         
                                                                wildcats20
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 27,794
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:19pm
                            
                        
                                This is awful.
                            
                         
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 35,632
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:20pm
                            
                        
                                One fucking hit..boring
                            
                         
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:26pm
                            
                        
                                Manny freaking Machado
This game has 4 talented guys at 21 years of age or younger.
                        This game has 4 talented guys at 21 years of age or younger.
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:27pm
                            
                        SportsAndLady;1473547 wrote:One fucking hit..boring
That Machado play was worth about 5 hits
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 35,632
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:27pm
                            
                        lmao, you hate Brandon PhillipsIronman92;1473543 wrote:I like numbers....but simply put David Wright plays the game consistently harder than Brandon Phillips, as do many.
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 35,632
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:28pm
                            
                        Ironman92;1473554 wrote:Manny freaking Machado
This game has 4 talented guys at 21 years of age or younger.
Wasn't really THAT great..Ironman92;1473557 wrote:That Machado play was worth about 5 hits
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:28pm
                            
                        SportsAndLady;1473558 wrote:lmao, you hate Brandon Phillips
Name 5 non-pitchers who hustle less than BP.
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 35,632
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:29pm
                            
                        Yeah yeah yeahIronman92;1473561 wrote:Name 5 players who hustle less than BP.
You hate BP
 
                                                                Midstate01
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 14,766
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:32pm
                            
                        
                                I think david Wright is vastly overrated personally. I don't give two shits about hustle. You want denorfia back?
                            
                         
                                                                Laley23
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 29,506
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:39pm
                            
                        
                                Fuck Jim Leyland if he puts Mo in for the 8th with a lead.
                            
                         
                                                                wildcats20
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 27,794
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:40pm
                            
                        Laley23;1473572 wrote:Fuck Jim Leyland if he puts Mo in for the 8th with a lead.
Yeah, that's fucked up
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:41pm
                            
                        SportsAndLady;1473563 wrote:Yeah yeah yeah
You hate BP
Sitting in my living room with me you wouldn't think that.....reading my stuff on here you would. I don't hate BP....but I don't like how ridiculously often he swings for the fences, his base running is unnecessarily below average.....what I hate is Thom blowing out my tv speakers when he makes a very good play that many other 2B make.....BP does have the great highlight plays that few other could make. People act like he is the only great fielding 2nd baseman (he and Cano by far have the most flair and style)...but for the most part every starting 2nd baseman is a darn good defensive player.
I'm not a hot dog fan between the lines....sorry. I do appreciate his HOF talent, but he'll never do enough to make it.
He is one of the best defensive 2nd baseman I have ever seen....but Alomar takes it for me.
 
                                                                ohiobucks1
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 4,915
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:42pm
                            
                        
                                Kipnis time!
                            
                         
                                                                ohiobucks1
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 4,915
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:43pm
                            
                        Masterson for the save!Laley23;1473529 wrote:Also, I now dont want Masterson to pitch. I just learned Cleveland will push his next start to Sunday if he pitches today instead of Friday. Fuck that noise!
 
                                                                ohiobucks1
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 4,915
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:43pm
                            
                        
                                we are all kipnises
                            
                         
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:43pm
                            
                        Midstate01;1473567 wrote:I think david Wright is vastly overrated personally. I don't give two shits about hustle. You want denorfia back?
I don't believe that....and I've never liked Denorfia but he has at least made a decent career.
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 35,632
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:44pm
                            
                        Lol unrealIronman92;1473577 wrote:Sitting in my living room with me you wouldn't think that.....reading my stuff on here you would. I don't hate BP....but I don't like how ridiculously often he swings for the fences, his base running is unnecessarily below average.....what I hate is Thom blowing out my tv speakers when he makes a very good play that many other 2B make.....BP does have the great highlight plays that few other could make. People act like he is the only great fielding 2nd baseman (he and Cano by far have the most flair and style)...but for the most part every starting 2nd baseman is a darn good defensive player.
I'm not a hot dog fan between the lines....sorry. I do appreciate his HOF talent, but he'll never do enough to make it.
He is one of the best defensive 2nd baseman I have ever seen....but Alomar takes it for me.
I can't even respond back
 
                                                                Terry_Tate
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 7,606
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:44pm
                            
                        
                                Is he really going to bring Rivera in to pitch the 8th and not the 9th?
                            
                         
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:45pm
                            
                        
                                An 8th inning song?
                            
                         
                                                                wildcats20
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 27,794
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:45pm
                            
                        Terry_Tate;1473584 wrote:Is he really going to bring Rivera in to pitch the 8th and not the 9th?
It appears that way.
 
                                                                Laley23
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 29,506
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 16, 2013 10:45pm
                            
                        
                                Well, maybe Leyland wont fuck this up and save Mo for the 9th with a 3 run lead...