hasbeen;1461647 wrote:That makes accidental death funny?

When somebodies love is being a wing walker and an accident happens it's not sad. She died doing what she loved.

GoChiefs;1461648 wrote:Theres absolutely no humor in it. If you honestly think it's funny, you really are a sick fuck.

I hope you prayed for all those involved.

Somebody dying doing what the love doesn't make it funny

I think we should all take this time and...permaban Said from these forums.

SportsAndLady;1461655 wrote:I think we should all take this time and...permaban Said from these forums.

I wonder how many people who doesn't see humor in a wing walking accident does laugh at the Darwin awards.

said_aouita;1461656 wrote:I wonder how many people who doesn't see humor in a wing walking accident does laugh at the Darwin awards.

Not even close to the same thing. She died performing a stunt she has not doubt done countless times due to a plane malfunction. Not doing something stupid like looking down the barrel of a gun and accidentally pulling the trigger.

SportsAndLady;1461655 wrote:I think we should all take this time and...permaban Said from these forums.

reps

xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;1461658 wrote:Not even close to the same thing. She died performing a stunt she has not doubt done countless times due to a plane malfunction. Not doing something stupid like looking down the barrel of a gun and accidentally pulling the trigger.

Just because someone has done a stunt countless times doesn't make it not stupid.

Alligator "wrestlers" have that whole shtick of sticking their head in an alligators mouth that is wide open. Just because they have done it 50+ times, doesn't make it not stupid.

This obviously is a terrible event as someone died trying to entertain others. But that said, stunt flying is dangerous and I'm sure any pilot that does it is aware that a malfunction can happen and it can end poorly.

With all that said, laughing at this obviously isn't an appropriate response.

said_aouita;1461650 wrote:I hope you prayed for all those involved.

I prayed you get hit by a bus while running.

Hope this helps.

Fly4Fun;1461675 wrote:Just because someone has done a stunt countless times doesn't make it not stupid.

Alligator "wrestlers" have that whole shtick of sticking their head in an alligators mouth that is wide open. Just because they have done it 50+ times, doesn't make it not stupid.

This obviously is a terrible event as someone died trying to entertain others. But that said, stunt flying is dangerous and I'm sure any pilot that does it is aware that a malfunction can happen and it can end poorly.

With all that said, laughing at this obviously isn't an appropriate response.

There's a difference between crazy and stupid. Those people might be crazy but they are not stupid.

Call it what you want, but laughing at people dying is just sickening.

Tell someone to go fuck themselves when deserved, get banned for life. Laugh at someone dying, don't even get a thread ban.

DeyDurkie5;1461681 wrote:Tell someone to go fuck themselves when deserved, get banned for life. Laugh at someone dying, don't even get a thread ban.

There is a difference between personal attacks/trolling and having a controversial opinion.

Also, I think Like_that inadvertently makes an interesting point.

Call it what you want, but laughing at people dying is just sickening.

Is it really that far fetched for human society to laugh at people dying? Our entertainment industry does it all the time whether it be through movies, television or even video games. American society has made death a billion dollar industry. Now obviously not all death depicted is meant to elicit laughter, sometimes it is meant to elicit shock, terror, sadness, etc. But it does target laughter sometimes.

Now in conjunction with that, in general internet message boards tend to have a dehumanizing characteristic in that people will often say or do things that would normally be considered socially unacceptable and offensive. You can see that to varying degrees on just about any message board. Whether that is because of the relative anonymity or the lack of actual social interaction or a combination of both that encourages this is irrelevant.

And between those two proceeding paragraphs I'm not entirely surprised that someone would have this kind of reaction sadly. But beyond that, we've had similar sentiments before such as people wishing death on others because of their opinion. We have people who literally spew hate at each other over their sports affiliations and/or opinion about sports. Some of these hateful interactions even boil over into threats of physical harm.

Anyways, just something I briefly thought of when reading like_that's post. I don't really think this kind of reaction to death is really that far fetched. But as I said earlier, I definitely do not believe it to be appropriate. But it is his opinion and he's entitled to it. Just as we don't ban people for being racists or prejudiced we won't ban said for having a socially unacceptable view towards real human death.

Fly4Fun;1461687 wrote:There is a difference between personal attacks/trolling and having a controversial opinion.

Also, I think Like_that inadvertently makes an interesting point.


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Is it really that far fetched for human society to laugh at people dying? Our entertainment industry does it all the time whether it be through movies, television or even video games. American society has made death a billion dollar industry. Now obviously not all death depicted is meant to elicit laughter, sometimes it is meant to elicit shock, terror, sadness, etc. But it does target laughter sometimes.

Now in conjunction with that, in general internet message boards tend to have a dehumanizing characteristic in that people will often say or do things that would normally be considered socially unacceptable and offensive. You can see that to varying degrees on just about any message board. Whether that is because of the relative anonymity or the lack of actual social interaction or a combination of both that encourages this is irrelevant.

And between those two proceeding paragraphs I'm not entirely surprised that someone would have this kind of reaction sadly. But beyond that, we've had similar sentiments before such as people wishing death on others because of their opinion. We have people who literally spew hate at each other over their sports affiliations and/or opinion about sports. Some of these hateful interactions even boil over into threats of physical harm.

Anyways, just something I briefly thought of when reading like_that's post. I don't really think this kind of reaction to death is really that far fetched. But as I said earlier, I definitely do not believe it to be appropriate. But it is his opinion and he's entitled to it. Just as we don't ban people for being racists or prejudiced we won't ban said for having a socially unacceptable view towards real human death.

Here is my response to your post in the basement: http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?38769-Like_That-s-infractable-posts&p=1461689&viewfull=1#post1461689

Fly4Fun;1461687 wrote:There is a difference between personal attacks/trolling and having a controversial opinion.

Telling Cats Gone Wild/Skyhook/Said to go fuck themselves when they make retarded trolling posts is not "personally attacking anyone"...it's an opinionated response to someone's obvious troll post(well not obvious since the mods seem to let lotz/CGW/said/etc. make these posts with no penalty). Trolling is just opinions. It's controversial opinions to rile up the popular vote. It's not that hard to see and yet you ban people for trolling when in reality all it is "controversial opinions". No logic at all in what you guys do on this site.

DeyDurkie5;1461692 wrote:Telling Cats Gone Wild/Skyhook/Said to go fuck themselves when they make retarded trolling posts is not "personally attacking anyone"...it's an opinionated response to someone's obvious troll post(well not obvious since the mods seem to let lotz/CGW/said/etc. make these posts with no penalty). Trolling is just opinions. It's controversial opinions to rile up the popular vote. It's not that hard to see and yet you ban people for trolling when in reality all it is "controversial opinions". No logic at all in what you guys do on this site.

Nice post. Would read again.

Fly4Fun;1461687 wrote:There is a difference between personal attacks/trolling and having a controversial opinion.

Also, I think Like_that inadvertently makes an interesting point.


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Is it really that far fetched for human society to laugh at people dying? Our entertainment industry does it all the time whether it be through movies, television or even video games. American society has made death a billion dollar industry. Now obviously not all death depicted is meant to elicit laughter, sometimes it is meant to elicit shock, terror, sadness, etc. But it does target laughter sometimes.

Now in conjunction with that, in general internet message boards tend to have a dehumanizing characteristic in that people will often say or do things that would normally be considered socially unacceptable and offensive. You can see that to varying degrees on just about any message board. Whether that is because of the relative anonymity or the lack of actual social interaction or a combination of both that encourages this is irrelevant.

And between those two proceeding paragraphs I'm not entirely surprised that someone would have this kind of reaction sadly. But beyond that, we've had similar sentiments before such as people wishing death on others because of their opinion. We have people who literally spew hate at each other over their sports affiliations and/or opinion about sports. Some of these hateful interactions even boil over into threats of physical harm.

Anyways, just something I briefly thought of when reading like_that's post. I don't really think this kind of reaction to death is really that far fetched. But as I said earlier, I definitely do not believe it to be appropriate. But it is his opinion and he's entitled to it. Just as we don't ban people for being racists or prejudiced we won't ban said for having a socially unacceptable view towards real human death.

Wow what is the point of this post?

DeyDurkie5;1461692 wrote:Telling Cats Gone Wild/Skyhook/Said to go fuck themselves when they make retarded trolling posts is not "personally attacking anyone"...it's an opinionated response to someone's obvious troll post(well not obvious since the mods seem to let lotz/CGW/said/etc. make these posts with no penalty). Trolling is just opinions. It's controversial opinions to rile up the popular vote. It's not that hard to see and yet you ban people for trolling when in reality all it is "controversial opinions". No logic at all in what you guys do on this site.

You do point out the crux of the problem that defining the line between trolling and controversial opinion is something we do struggle with. As there is obviously a similarity between the two. And we often do have discussions about posts/posters that fall into that opinion and try to give leeway on the side of it being a controversial opinion. But having people start pissing wars over it doesn't solve the problem, hence no personal attacks. And to say that those posters get away with it is false as some of the people you have referenced have been either thread banned or basement banned for their comments.

Fly4Fun;1461696 wrote:You do point out the crux of the problem that defining the line between trolling and controversial opinion is something we do struggle with. As there is obviously a similarity between the two. And we often do have discussions about posts/posters that fall into that opinion and try to give leeway on the side of it being a controversial opinion. But having people start pissing wars over it doesn't solve the problem, hence no personal attacks. And to say that those posters get away with it is false as some of the people you have referenced have been either thread banned or basement banned for their comments.

like_that;1461694 wrote:Nice post. Would read again.

Nice post. Would read again.

Fly4Fun;1461698 wrote:The point of it is that I think it's ironic that people on here are acting like what said did was the worst thing ever and so far over the moral line of socially acceptable that he's the most worthless human being here. When talking about reasonableness or socially acceptable behavior I think many posters on this site aren't really those that should be casting the first stones.

And I was pointing out that the idea of people laughing at someone's death in generally is not far fetched in our society as we have a billion dollar media industry that does try to elicit that very response in some instances.

Once again, I am not condoning said's words/opinion. But I think people are going to an extreme here in judging him.

Wow! Somebody gets it. Unlike some of the recent unbanned people around here.

like_that;1461690 wrote:Here is my response to your post in the basement: http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?38769-Like_That-s-infractable-posts&p=1461689&viewfull=1#post1461689

The point of it is that I think it's ironic that people on here are acting like what said did was the worst thing ever and so far over the moral line of socially acceptable that he's the most worthless human being here. When talking about reasonableness or socially acceptable behavior I think many posters on this site aren't really those that should be casting the first stones.

And I was pointing out that the idea of people laughing at someone's death in generally is not far fetched in our society as we have a billion dollar media industry that does try to elicit that very response in some instances.

Once again, I am not condoning said's words/opinion. But I think people are going to an extreme here in judging him.

Fly4Fun;1461698 wrote:The point of it is that I think it's ironic that people on here are acting like what said did was the worst thing ever and so far over the moral line of socially acceptable that he's the most worthless human being here. When talking about reasonableness or socially acceptable behavior I think many posters on this site aren't really those that should be casting the first stones.

That's not happening.

hasbeen;1461699 wrote:That's not happening.

Yeah, no clue where f4f sees that type of reaction. Auiota said something fucking stupid, and people told him how stupid it pretty much was. Not surprised F4F has to change the conversation into something that isn't there.

hasbeen;1461699 wrote:That's not happening.

Really? I'm seeing more of an outcry over his comments regarding death than I have over overtly racist comments from other posters.

Fly4Fun;1461701 wrote:Really? I'm seeing more of an outcry over his comments regarding death than I have over overtly racist comments from other posters.

We aren't yelling at the top of our lungs while posting this shit. We are just saying it was a dick comment. You don't have to analyze everything like it's a science experiment.

Fly4Fun;1461701 wrote:Really? I'm seeing more of an outcry over his comments regarding death than I have over overtly racist comments from other posters.

Yeah, these comments are such an "outcry." :rolleyes:

Rotinaj;1461560 wrote:Negged.

vball10set;1461561 wrote:Please explain how this possibly could amuse you?

Crimson streak;1461566 wrote:Agreed. Back in 2008 our local airport had a fly and breakfast and I was at my friends house and we heard a loud crash and across the street in an open field we saw a little girl and her parents burn from a plane that crashed. Luckily they ruled they died on the impact instead of burning alive but it's something that still haunts me I see absolutely nothing funny about this

Sonofanump;1461621 wrote:WTF.

friendfromlowry;1461631 wrote:Just said_aouita being an idiot. What else is new.

vball10set;1461642 wrote:I honestly don't know how to respond to these comments, so I won't.

hasbeen;1461647 wrote:That makes accidental death funny?

GoChiefs;1461648 wrote:Theres absolutely no humor in it. If you honestly think it's funny, you really are a sick fuck.

xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;1461654 wrote:Somebody dying doing what the love doesn't make it funny

like_that;1461704 wrote:Yeah, these comments are such an "outcry." :rolleyes:

Once again, that's a lot more of an outcry than we see from people posting racist comments.