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Oct 13, 2015 3:50 PM
The article was pretty technical, and a little over my head, but I got the gist. Basically, don't be a lazy bum, or eat horrible food and you can moderately drink alcohol without hurting the waistline.
Oct 13, 2015 11:50am
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Oct 13, 2015 3:51 PM
like_that;1756808 wrote:Depends on what alcohol you drink too. Most liquor doesn't have any carbs/fat/protein. Beer does.
So beer can pack on the pounds even if drank moderately then?
Oct 13, 2015 11:51am
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Oct 13, 2015 3:51 PM
Commander of Awesome;1756809 wrote:The article was pretty technical, and a little over my head, but I got the gist. Basically, don't be a lazy bum, or eat horrible food and you can moderately drink alcohol without hurting the waistline.
Stick to protein when you binge drink.
Oct 13, 2015 11:51am
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Oct 13, 2015 3:53 PM
Commander of Awesome;1756810 wrote:So beer can pack on the pounds even if drank moderately then?
The key word is moderately. As long as you factor the macros (carbs/fat/protein) into your daily macros, you should be fine.
Oct 13, 2015 11:53am
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Oct 13, 2015 3:54 PM
like_that;1756811 wrote:Stick to protein when you binge drink.
I rarely binge drink. More like a beer or two for a work HH on a weekday and a few beers on Fri/Sat. I'm not concerned about gaining weight, I was more interested in an overall conversation because I think there is a ton of misinformation on the subject. And I personally found it hard to navigate and shift through the garbage.

I'm way more concerned with the long term effects of alcohol on my internal body organs long term than I am on weight gain.
Oct 13, 2015 11:54am
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Oct 13, 2015 3:55 PM
Commander of Awesome;1756809 wrote:The article was pretty technical, and a little over my head, but I got the gist. Basically, don't be a lazy bum, or eat horrible food and you can moderately drink alcohol without hurting the waistline.
You can replace "drink alcohol" with virtually anything as long as you exercise.
Oct 13, 2015 11:55am
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Oct 13, 2015 4:03 PM
Even drinking say 6 beers a day, you're looking at maybe an additional 500-800 calories. Probably 25% of that is eliminated in metabolizing the alcohol. It's not an exact science because everyone is different and our bodies don't run like a math formula...but the drinking isn't making you fat. It's all the additional stuff. And I wouldn't call 6 beers a day even moderation...most would say that's excessive.
Oct 13, 2015 12:03pm
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Oct 13, 2015 5:27 PM
So 10 beers a day was not making me fat?
Oct 13, 2015 1:27pm
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Oct 13, 2015 5:35 PM
Azubuike24;1756817 wrote:Even drinking say 6 beers a day, you're looking at maybe an additional 500-800 calories. Probably 25% of that is eliminated in metabolizing the alcohol. It's not an exact science because everyone is different and our bodies don't run like a math formula...but the drinking isn't making you fat. It's all the additional stuff. And I wouldn't call 6 beers a day even moderation...most would say that's excessive.
Probably about 15 years ago, I was in (former)"Ernest Mode" and pounding 10-12 beers 6 nights a week. I was also working out like a motherfucker with a diet heavy in chicken breast, steak & salmon with minimal carbs. Best shape I was ever in. Metabolism was through the roof.
Oct 13, 2015 1:35pm
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Oct 13, 2015 5:37 PM
ernest_t_bass;1756826 wrote:So 10 beers a day was not making me fat?
Solely the beer? Nope.
Oct 13, 2015 1:37pm
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ernest_t_bass;1756826 wrote:So 10 beers a day was not making me fat?
You sleeping better? That's another factor. When I drink I sleep like shit.
Oct 13, 2015 1:50pm
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Oct 13, 2015 5:51 PM
Pretty much all facets of life are affected by regular booze consumption.

Diet, sleep, exercise, etc.
Oct 13, 2015 1:51pm
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Oct 13, 2015 6:22 PM
Commander of Awesome;1756830 wrote:You sleeping better? That's another factor. When I drink I sleep like shit.
When the alcohol had completely left my system (let's say, 1 month) I could not believe how much better I was sleeping. Mostly falling asleep. I could easily stay up until midnight every night and pound booze, and wake up at 5:30 hung over as shit. I'm lucky to make it past 10:00 now.
Oct 13, 2015 2:22pm
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Oct 13, 2015 7:04 PM
When intoxicated, you might think you are "sleeping" well, but you're not doing your body any favors. The hormonal response from "blacked out" sleep isn't at all optimal.

This is a great topic though...funny how the thread got fired up with it.
Oct 13, 2015 3:04pm
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Oct 13, 2015 8:16 PM
It's a solid topic. I hear it brought up by females all the time.

"OMG I drank so much this weekend, I gained 5 lbs!"
Oct 13, 2015 4:16pm
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Nov 5, 2015 2:27 PM
I'd say 3/5 people I see curl have terrible form.

That being said, I rarely do curls. Maybe 2-3 times a month.
Nov 5, 2015 9:27am
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Nov 5, 2015 3:42 PM
Depends. There's a time and place for max overload, momentum cheat curls. Constantly doing sets of 15-20 with 60-70 lbs is going to have diminishing returns.
Nov 5, 2015 10:42am
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Nov 5, 2015 6:04 PM
Automatik;1761110 wrote:I'd say 3/5 people I see curl have terrible form.

That being said, I rarely do curls. Maybe 2-3 times a month.
I never feel like I'm doing curls correctly unless I'm sitting down with my elbow on the inside of my knee. Too easy to cheat otherwise.
Nov 5, 2015 1:04pm
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Nov 5, 2015 6:21 PM
Commander of Awesome;1761131 wrote:I never feel like I'm doing curls correctly unless I'm sitting down with my elbow on the inside of my knee. Too easy to cheat otherwise.
I've learned to really dig/pin my elbows into my sides when doing barbell curls (I use the EZ bar....straight bar messes up my forearms/elbows) and that seems to do the trick. As the weights get much heavier, it's pretty easy to lose form.
Nov 5, 2015 1:21pm
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Nov 5, 2015 6:51 PM
Lower weight and correct form is key. I was taught that at a very young age. College was ridiculous, you see kids swinging their whole body to get 50s up. :laugh1:

I like seated dumbbells with my back straight and against the pad. Other times I'll do standing with the big straight bar.
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Nov 5, 2015 7:04 PM
An excellent move to build bicep size is a rope hammer curl on the low pulley. You keep constant tension on the arms and it really hits the brachialis.
Nov 5, 2015 2:04pm
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Nov 5, 2015 7:33 PM
Great debate on curls. Then again, you got guys like Kali Muscle, who has massive arms, who EZ Bar curls 315 (and the reps move like 6 inches). He says that form is irrelevant and it's all about the total weight time the tension.

I don't think he's the most credible, but he's also very over the top...and his point is more that, you're NEVER going to get there with low weight/super high volume sets.

Personally, I'll hit biceps 3 times a week. Not a true arm day, but mixed throughout.

One day with very heavy, low rep, less strict form
One day with very strict, no forearm/elbow movement, high rep to failure
One day with something different, cable curls, chin-ups, etc.
Nov 5, 2015 2:33pm
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Nov 5, 2015 11:58 PM
Automatik;1761110 wrote:I'd say 3/5 people I see curl have terrible form.

That being said, I rarely do curls. Maybe 2-3 times a month.
Same. When I do them I do 3 sets of 7-7-7 (bottom to half way, halway to top, and then full curls) and try to burn out.
Nov 5, 2015 6:58pm