Raw Dawgin' it;1584814 wrote:Distance running breaks down muscles

False

http://www.livestrong.com/article/466121-does-running-a-long-distance-burn-muscle/#page=1

dlazz;1584817 wrote:False

http://www.livestrong.com/article/466121-does-running-a-long-distance-burn-muscle/#page=1

Lance Armstrong was a liar!!! LOL!

I'm not saying distance running erodes muscle, but it sure as shit doesn't build it...at least not for what I'm going for.

Most distance runners I know are skinny, the extreme ones have that "withered away" physique. No thanks.

ernest_t_bass;1584815 wrote:What are your sprint workouts?

Treadmill I do a couple sets of Tabatas 20s on, 10s off for 4 minutes then take a 2 minute break and do this 3 times.

I also do sprints, 30s on 30s off and I'll do faster speeds because I have a longer break and I'll do those for 5 minutes and take a break.

Other exercise i like on the treadmill is 2min run and 30s break. I start at 7.2 and during the break turn the speed up .2-.4 mph and do this for 25-30 minutes.

When it gets warmer i'll do hill runs outside.

vdubb96;1584818 wrote:Lance Armstrong was a liar!!! LOL!

Okay... But he didn't write the article.

The only way you could burn muscle by running is if you're malnourished. Your body burns calories in a certain order, regardless of whether you're lifting weights, sprinting, long distance running, etc.

It wouldn't start breaking down protein (muscle mass) until it's exhausted every other energy reserve. (sugars/fats/etc)

I feel like I'm one of a few people who paid attention in health class.

Automatik;1584822 wrote:I'm not saying distance running erodes muscle, but it sure as shit doesn't build it...at least not for what I'm going for.

Most distance runners I know are skinny, the extreme ones have that "withered away" physique. No thanks.

The smartest thing to do is both running and lifting. You'd get the best of both worlds: strength and fat burn

Most distance runners are probably like me: they strictly run and burn up their fat reserves and appear "withered away". If someone lifted and ran they'd probably see excellent results.

dlazz;1584824 wrote:I feel like I'm one of a few people who paid attention in health class.

That's because CCRunner wore short shorts, and had one leg up on the table at all times. You couldn't keep your eyes off of him. You know, because you're gay.

dlazz;1584825 wrote:The smartest thing to do is both running and lifting. You'd get the best of both worlds: strength and fat burn

Most distance runners are probably like me: they strictly run and burn up their fat reserves and appear "withered away". If someone lifted and ran they'd probably see excellent results.

Thats why during my lunch hour I lift, then at night I either get my cardio in from basketball or a interval workout. Strength and fat burn. Although sometimes I know I'm not eating enough doing doubles.

ernest_t_bass;1584829 wrote:That's because CCRunner wore short shorts, and had one leg up on the table at all times. You couldn't keep your eyes off of him. You know, because you're gay.

You aren't even trying anymore, are you?

dlazz;1584841 wrote:You aren't even trying anymore, are you?

ernest_t_bass;1584750 wrote:34 minutes isn't a terrible pace, at least for me. I like to get on the treadmill and vary speeds. The treadmill I use has a 1/4 mile "lap" counter, so I'll usually go 4 mph to start and warm up, then bump up to 6 for a lap, then 7, then 8, then 9, then back down to 4. Really gets the heart rate going.

I've figured out the best middle distance pace for me is 7.5. Trying to get up near 8-10 miles at that pace.

Sonofanump;1584853 wrote:I've figured out the best middle distance pace for me is 7.5. Trying to get up near 8-10 miles at that pace.

Screw that. I think the farthest that I will ever care to run, probably for the rest of my life, is 3 miles. But a 7.5 MPH pace is pretty good.

dlazz;1584817 wrote:False

http://www.livestrong.com/article/466121-does-running-a-long-distance-burn-muscle/#page=1

Yes, false if you incorporate weights/resistance into your cardio.

ernest_t_bass;1584855 wrote:Screw that. I think the farthest that I will ever care to run, probably for the rest of my life, is 3 miles. But a 7.5 MPH pace is pretty good.

I've never run over 6.2 miles at a time, but that is usually after a mile swim and a 25 mile bike.

ernest_t_bass;1584855 wrote:Screw that. I think the farthest that I will ever care to run, probably for the rest of my life, is 3 miles. But a 7.5 MPH pace is pretty good.

HIIT is more important for what you need. Starting and stopping every 30-60 seconds.

Sonofanump;1584858 wrote:I've never run over 6.2 miles at a time, but that is usually after a mile swim and a 25 mile bike.

I just hate running for fun. Put me on a ball court, and I'll gladly run all day.

Sorry dlazz but it's pretty well known that jogging long distances puts you in a catabolic state. If looking frail or having a hipster skinny fat is your look then go for it. Sprints are the best for making muscle gains. I have a park with a lot of steps here (google meridian park), and that's where I do my sprint workouts.

With that being said I'm a hypocrite and have been running long distance this winter, because I want to beat my half marathon time. Once I run it, I will go back to my sprint workouts (it will also be warm enough to do so by then).

Also, a 10 minute pace is slllloowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

ernest_t_bass;1584860 wrote:I just hate running for fun. Put me on a ball court, and I'll gladly run all day.

That's my problem. Last year, I started a running workout where I'd go to the local cemetery and run little "block laps" (where if you take the paved paths in a decent sized cemetery and run a "block" that's, I don't know, in the 400-meter range give or take). Lasted about 3 weeks until I just got tired of it.

So I just keep to my thing where I blast music for an hour or two at night and do a lot of light weights and isometric-style stuff. Noticing a bit more definition, as I gradually alter my workout whenever I hear about something that might work better than what I'm currently doing. Just wish the stomach fat would go away a bit quicker. But hopefully keeping up what I'm doing and being more strict with my diet will help there. Winter/holidays/partying caught up a bit, as I was a consistent 165-170 most of last year, but have been more along the 174-175 zone for the last 3-4 months.

like_that;1584864 wrote:Also, a 10 minute pace is slllloowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

While I agree that it is slow, it sucks on a treadmill.

Heretic;1584866 wrote:That's my problem. Last year, I started a running workout where I'd go to the local cemetery and run little "block laps"

Why does it not surprise me, that you, of all people, would run in a cemetery?

like_that;1584864 wrote:Sorry dlazz but it's pretty well known that jogging long distances puts you in a catabolic state.

But to get to that level of a catabolic state to lose muscle mass, you have to basically void your diet of all protein and run very high miles.

So sorry, distance runners don't lose muscle, except in very extreme circumstances.

TedSheckler;1584869 wrote:But to get to that level of a catabolic state to lose muscle mass, you have to basically void your diet of all protein and run very high miles.

So sorry, distance runners don't lose muscle, except in very extreme circumstances.

You can't lose what you don't have.

ernest_t_bass;1584868 wrote:Why does it not surprise me, that you, of all people, would run in a cemetery?

Great place to jog. Quiet and peaceful where you don't have to deal with people watching you gasp for breath because your cardio really needs work!

And you can finish your jog and start up the nightly black mass without even having to drive somewhere else! WIN/WIN, amirite?

TedSheckler;1584869 wrote:But to get to that level of a catabolic state to lose muscle mass, you have to basically void your diet of all protein and run very high miles.

So sorry, distance runners don't lose muscle, except in very extreme circumstances.

Yeah but someone found a jpg to drive their point home so we don't know what we're talking about.