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                                May 18, 2013 3:55pm
                            
                        
                                Thank God their Perez is as bad as our Perez.
                            
                         
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                                May 18, 2013 3:56pm
                            
                        
                                Just a fly ball here Mark.
                            
                         
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                                May 18, 2013 3:56pm
                            
                        
                                Loaded with no outs for Reynolds. Lets do this
                            
                         
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                                May 18, 2013 4:01pm
                            
                        
                                The old walk off RBI Fielders Choice. Just like you draw it up.
                            
                         
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                                May 18, 2013 4:03pm
                            
                        
                                Much closer score than the game was. Mcallister left in 1 inning too long. Perez being Perez.
                            
                         
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                                May 18, 2013 4:09pm
                            
                        Perez had an ERA of 0.69 coming into today. He's been pretty good this year. Blown saves happen. The other guys rallied and picked him up.iclfan2;1444891 wrote:Much closer score than the game was. Mcallister left in 1 inning too long. Perez being Perez.
 
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                                May 18, 2013 4:21pm
                            
                        Right, I know he's been good, but he always seems to give up hits and make it interesting. I dunno what it is, but when Pestano comes in I'm not worried at all, but I don't have that same faith in CP. I'm also glad he hasn't opened up his whiny mouth yet this year.TBone14;1444893 wrote:Perez had an ERA of 0.69 coming into today. He's been pretty good this year. Blown saves happen. The other guys rallied and picked him up.
                                        
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                                May 18, 2013 4:46pm
                            
                        
                                Sure was anticlimactic, but a win's a win :thumbup:
                            
                         
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                                May 18, 2013 4:55pm
                            
                        
                                ?Roll Tribe
                            
                         
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                                May 18, 2013 5:39pm
                            
                        
                                Another nice win. Hopefully back to back walk offs has the Ms down tomorrow and the Tribe on a high. We will need it with Felix going.
Also, anyone else think Cody Allen is the closer if the future??
                        Also, anyone else think Cody Allen is the closer if the future??
 
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                                May 18, 2013 6:01pm
                            
                        
                                Just got back from FLA....That walkoff HR last nite sure looked good on ESPN last nite. :thumbup:
...and another late inning win today:thumbup:
Perez sure has been making it interesting in the 9th.
I will be there tomorrow :thumbup:
                        ...and another late inning win today:thumbup:
Perez sure has been making it interesting in the 9th.
I will be there tomorrow :thumbup:
 
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                                May 18, 2013 7:13pm
                            
                        True dat!iclfan2;1444898 wrote:...... but when Pestano comes in I'm not worried at all, but I don't have that same faith in CP. I'm also glad he hasn't opened up his whiny mouth yet this year.
 
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                                May 18, 2013 7:26pm
                            
                        yeah...they seem to be grooming him for a back end of the pen guy next year. I don't see CP being retained...if not outright traded whether or not the Tribe is in the pennant race.lAlso, anyone else think Cody Allen is the closer if the future?
 
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                                May 18, 2013 8:02pm
                            
                        Laley23;1444913 wrote:Another nice win. Hopefully back to back walk offs has the Ms down tomorrow and the Tribe on a high. We will need it with Felix going.
Also, anyone else think Cody Allen is the closer if the future??
Tribe will have their hands full tomorrow and Monday with King and Iwakuma going.
To answer your question...Allen looks great but how isn't Pestano the closer of the future? They need to lock him up for about 8 more years.
 
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                                May 18, 2013 8:53pm
                            
                        I dont think Pestano has "closer stuff" as they say. Not overpowering with his fastball (though it is deceptive). Allen throws it 97 and has the secondary pitches to make him lethal. All depends on his mental ability.TBone14;1444942 wrote:Tribe will have their hands full tomorrow and Monday with King and Iwakuma going.
To answer your question...Allen looks great but how isn't Pestano the closer of the future? They need to lock him up for about 8 more years.
That said, I dont have an issue with Pestano moving to Closer. But honestly, if we have both, why not try Allen first? Leave Pestano where we know he is awesome instead of putting 2 guys into unknown situations.
 
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                                May 18, 2013 8:55pm
                            
                        Laley23;1444947 wrote:I dont think Pestano has "closer stuff" as they say. Not overpowering with his fastball (though it is deceptive). Allen throws it 97 and has the secondary pitches to make him lethal. All depends on his mental ability.
That said, I dont have an issue with Pestano moving to Closer. But honestly, if we have both, why not try Allen first? Leave Pestano where we know he is awesome instead of putting 2 guys into unknown situations.
Doug Jones didn't have the stuff either...it is more the mental make up for those last 3 outs. I think vinnie is the future closer
 
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                                May 18, 2013 8:56pm
                            
                        
                                I should also add that there is nothing wrong with not having the prototypical "closer stuff". Just that the brass likely will go the conventional way...
I do believe, however, that Allen might have the best stuff out of CP, Vinnie and himself. Just needs experience.
                        I do believe, however, that Allen might have the best stuff out of CP, Vinnie and himself. Just needs experience.
 
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                                May 18, 2013 8:57pm
                            
                        I agree, and I kind of made that point below.wes_mantooth;1444948 wrote:Doug Jones didn't have the stuff either...it is more the mental make up for those last 3 outs. I think vinnie is the future closer
Its not so much I agree with having a hard thrower in there. But thats the way organizations seem to be moving...
                                        
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                                May 18, 2013 11:26pm
                            
                        
                                Perez is a fine closer.  Prpbably in the top ten around the league.  Sometimes you have to tip your cap to the hitters.  Fans have a short memory.  Joe Blowoski anyone?  Or how about Wicky Wacky?
                            
                        
                                        
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                                May 18, 2013 11:31pm
                            
                        
                                This link lists CP as the fifth best closer in all of baseball.  I don't know when it was written though.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1193581-power-ranking-the-top-25-closers-in-mlb-right-now#/articles/1193581-power-ranking-the-top-25-closers-in-mlb-right-now/page/23
                        http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1193581-power-ranking-the-top-25-closers-in-mlb-right-now#/articles/1193581-power-ranking-the-top-25-closers-in-mlb-right-now/page/23
                                        
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                                May 19, 2013 7:34am
                            
                        Maybe, but count me in as another fan of Pestano taking over that role. You make some valid points for Allen, but Pestano just seems to have that attitude for a closer. jmo.Laley23;1444913 wrote:Also, anyone else think Cody Allen is the closer if the future??
 
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                                May 19, 2013 7:34am
                            
                        Ive got no real issues with CP. But he will possibly not be with us next year (Arbitration Eligible). Closers always get overpaid, and when you have, in theory, two others to fill the role already it makes no sense to sign him long term. I would be surprised if we let this season play out and see what he is worth in Arbitration or trade him.Footwedge;1444997 wrote:Perez is a fine closer. Prpbably in the top ten around the league. Sometimes you have to tip your cap to the hitters. Fans have a short memory. Joe Blowoski anyone? Or how about Wicky Wacky?
                                        
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                                May 19, 2013 7:43am
                            
                        
                                *Joe Borowski  
                            
                         
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                                May 19, 2013 8:45am
                            
                        vball10set;1445025 wrote:Maybe, but count me in as another fan of Pestano taking over that role. You make some valid points for Allen, but Pestano just seems to have that attitude for a closer. jmo.
I agree. Hell shaw has closer stuff a d could be an option as well
 
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                                May 19, 2013 12:24pm
                            
                        
                                Great match up today. Hopefully the Tribe continues their recent success against Cy Young winners.