SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 1, 2014 11:42pm
They're a lock IMO.reclegend22;1586112 wrote:They lose their last two regular-season games and they are not in IMO. Oklahoma State will need to split its last two against K-State and Iowa State to be in good position for an invite. A team should not be rewarded for finishing two games below .500 in their conference. I just don't see how a team can lose seven games in a row in February while finishing 7-9 in conference play and still go to the NCAAs.
With another win, though, then I could easily see them getting in.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 2, 2014 12:10am
A team sitting at 7-9 in conference that lost seven games in a row in February is far from a lock in my view. If Oklahoma State goes 7-11 in the Big XII, they are on the outside looking in. If they got in, it'd be a complete joke.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Mar 2, 2014 9:16am
I agree, far from a lock..yet. Even Lunardi said as much yesterday prior to the game. I believe he said they needed to win at least 2 more games to get in. Game day was showing some bubble teams and all were very even.reclegend22;1586119 wrote:A team sitting at 7-9 in conference that lost seven games in a row in February is far from a lock in my view. If Oklahoma State goes 7-11 in the Big XII, they are on the outside looking in. If they got in, it'd be a complete joke.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Mar 2, 2014 9:36am
No talk about the biggest upset of yesterday? South Carolina taking down the greatest recruiting class of all time in Kentucky. SC is a terrible team, last in SEC. UK just lost second straight game. They are headed in the wrong direction, big time. Going to be curious where they will end up being seeded come NCAA.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Mar 2, 2014 9:43am
I was too disappointed to bring it up last night. They've just got no heart. Honestly look pretty similar to OSU, effort-wise.
They've still got a tough home game vs Alabama and Florida on the road, too. I could see them as low as an 8 or 9 depending on how things shake out.
They've still got a tough home game vs Alabama and Florida on the road, too. I could see them as low as an 8 or 9 depending on how things shake out.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Mar 2, 2014 10:47am
I have to disagree with this. OSU has the heart and gives the effort, they just don't have the talent (ie shooters). Kentucky has the talent, but like you said, they haven't shown the heart. Big difference.GOONx19;1586164 wrote:I was too disappointed to bring it up last night. They've just got no heart. Honestly look pretty similar to OSU, effort-wise
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 2, 2014 11:01am
I've almost broken stuff this week.
The last 12 minutes of the game last night, UK dominated South Carolina. Problem is, they got down 50-32. Absolutely pathetic.
The last 12 minutes of the game last night, UK dominated South Carolina. Problem is, they got down 50-32. Absolutely pathetic.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 2, 2014 11:50am
I'm not exactly shaken up when Kentucky loses, but I'd have preferred the Wildcats to finish the season out stronger than they have. If UK gets anywhere from a 7 to 9 seed, whichever region they're in is the one I hope my team is not. As a six seed or higher, UK would be eligible for placement in Florida's bracket in the South (as long as they didn't meet prior to the Elite Eight). Duke is currently predicted as the two seed in that region. I wonder whom the committee would choose as their seven seed down there...
No matter where they go, with its sheer talent alone, Kentucky would present a nightmare 7, 8 or 9 seed.
No matter where they go, with its sheer talent alone, Kentucky would present a nightmare 7, 8 or 9 seed.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Mar 2, 2014 12:48pm
UK could obviously beat anyone in the country...but they could also lose to just about anyone after the first round as well. The fear factor is now not there for teams. And their confidence is not obviously there either. Right now, at best this team is sweet 16. As we all know, much depends on matchups in the NCAA.reclegend22;1586192 wrote:I'm not exactly shaken up when Kentucky loses, but I'd have preferred the Wildcats to finish the season out stronger than they have. If UK gets anywhere from a 7 to 9 seed, whichever region they're in is the one I hope my team is not. As a six seed or higher, UK would be eligible for placement in Florida's bracket in the South (as long as they didn't meet prior to the Elite Eight). Duke is currently predicted as the two seed in that region. I wonder whom the committee would choose as their seven seed down there...
No matter where they go, with its sheer talent alone, Kentucky would present a nightmare 7, 8 or 9 seed.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 2, 2014 1:03pm
Regardless of whether the "fear factor" is still there or not, as a one or two seed, I'd much rather face Kansas State or George Washington in the second round than Kentucky.centralbucksfan;1586210 wrote:UK could obviously beat anyone in the country...but they could also lose to just about anyone after the first round as well. The fear factor is now not there for teams. And their confidence is not obviously there either. Right now, at best this team is sweet 16. As we all know, much depends on matchups in the NCAA.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 2, 2014 2:44pm
UK if they can't get up to the #5....they'll be an #8
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 2, 2014 7:25pm
I agree with this. An 8 UK vs. 1 (Arizona, Kansas, Duke, Insert Big Name Here) second round matchup would be too much for the committee to pass up.Ironman92;1586257 wrote:UK if they can't get up to the #5....they'll be an #8
Will be interested to revisit this discussion in about two weeks.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 2, 2014 7:53pm
And UNC in that 4/5 slot would make them happy as well.reclegend22;1586316 wrote:I agree with this. An 8 UK vs. 1 (Arizona, Kansas, Duke, Insert Big Name Here) second round matchup would be too much for the committee to pass up.
Will be interested to revisit this discussion in about two weeks.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 3, 2014 7:57am
Ohio State vs Kentucky in the 8/9 game, the winner plays Wichita State. Games in St. Louis, MO.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 3, 2014 8:17am
I think UK will be in with ZonaAzubuike24;1586429 wrote:Ohio State vs Kentucky in the 8/9 game, the winner plays Wichita State. Games in St. Louis, MO.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Mar 3, 2014 8:31am
Carolina will be in Kansas's bracket. But you know, the committee doesn't look at things like that.Ironman92;1586326 wrote:And UNC in that 4/5 slot would make them happy as well.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Mar 3, 2014 10:57am
lol, I jokingly told my best friend who is a huge UK fan that would be the exact scenario. I think Ohio State will play Kentucky or Xavier in the first round just depending on where they rank them. If Ohio State loses the next 2 wouldn't be surprised to see a 5-12 or 6-11 involving UC either.Azubuike24;1586429 wrote:Ohio State vs Kentucky in the 8/9 game, the winner plays Wichita State. Games in St. Louis, MO.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 3, 2014 11:40am
Wichita St cannot go undefeated, can they?
I guess I never thought of a school from a non power conference to topped IU's undefeated season, but it does make sense as if you can get a really, really good team you can go through the regular season nut roll easier than if you were in a big conference.
I guess I never thought of a school from a non power conference to topped IU's undefeated season, but it does make sense as if you can get a really, really good team you can go through the regular season nut roll easier than if you were in a big conference.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 3, 2014 11:50am
Interesting take on UK/Calipari
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/you-made-your-bed-john-calipari--now-lie-in-it-233738456-ncaab.html
Especially this bit at the end.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/you-made-your-bed-john-calipari--now-lie-in-it-233738456-ncaab.html
Especially this bit at the end.
Q: Did you know that the two Kentucky teams relying solely on your recruits as the major contributors are last year and this year? And that their record is 42-20, 23-11 in the SEC, with an NIT berth and four losses to teams ranked outside the Ken Pomeroy top 100?
Q: Did you know that your first three teams at Kentucky all had veteran players recruited by previous coaches in key roles? Those teams went a combined 102-14, 40-18 in the Southeastern Conference, with two SEC titles, two SEC tournament titles, two Final Four appearances and a national title.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 3, 2014 11:58am
Funny shit right there!Heretic;1586513 wrote:Interesting take on UK/Calipari
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/you-made-your-bed-john-calipari--now-lie-in-it-233738456-ncaab.html
Especially this bit at the end.
Shows you just cannot recruit stuperstars in basketball to fill the roster and expect to win. You need some sort of veteran leadership and role players to shovel shit.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 3, 2014 12:14pm
There's no doubt Cal's biggest problem has been keeping players around.
To his credit, he got Terrence Jones and Doron Lamb to stay, and they netted a title. It will be hard to argue against that.
To his credit, he got Terrence Jones and Doron Lamb to stay, and they netted a title. It will be hard to argue against that.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Mar 3, 2014 1:08pm
UC vs OSU...first team to 40 wins the game!Terry_Tate;1586495 wrote:lol, I jokingly told my best friend who is a huge UK fan that would be the exact scenario. I think Ohio State will play Kentucky or Xavier in the first round just depending on where they rank them. If Ohio State loses the next 2 wouldn't be surprised to see a 5-12 or 6-11 involving UC either.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Mar 3, 2014 1:11pm
centralbucksfan;1586539 wrote:UC vs OSU...first team to 40 wins the game!
Great...triple overtime, here we come!
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 3, 2014 8:30pm
Notre Dame has some goofy looking players lol
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 3, 2014 10:52pm
Ok St drilling KSU....they are in