OH Rep to introduce Pot Legalization

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MontyBrunswick
May 6, 2013 12:15pm
WebFire;1438816 wrote:I don't think people who already have a supplier they've been using for years are going to switch, especially if they have to pay additional tax.
To each his own, I guess.

I would want something that is legal and pure. If I have to pay $10 vs $8, I'll pay the $10.
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justincredible
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May 6, 2013 12:26pm
dlazz;1438819 wrote:To each his own, I guess.

I would want something that is legal and pure. If I have to pay $10 vs $8, I'll pay the $10.
If you have to worry about the purity you're buying from the wrong people.
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May 6, 2013 12:48pm
I will say that one advantage that legal dispensaries would have over some guy off the street would be the variety that they would carry. I'm sure there would be people that would want to go to the legal place just so they can try something different from the same old weed they buy every time.

I hope it's legalized, because I'm really looking forward to a "Weed Snob" thread on here.
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friendfromlowry
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May 6, 2013 12:58pm
Maybe this has already been discussed, but I'd be interested to see how it'd affect job hiring. The hospital partners I work for announced last Fall that they will now not hire anyone who smokes cigarettes. Granted that cigarettes have a lot more negative cardiovascular effects than marijuana.
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justincredible
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May 6, 2013 2:14pm
sherm03;1438827 wrote:I hope it's legalized, because I'm really looking forward to a "Weed Snob" thread on here.
Heh. Reps.
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May 6, 2013 2:16pm
friendfromlowry;1438830 wrote:Maybe this has already been discussed, but I'd be interested to see how it'd affect job hiring. The hospital partners I work for announced last Fall that they will now not hire anyone who smokes cigarettes. Granted that cigarettes have a lot more negative cardiovascular effects than marijuana.
I think in WA employers can still fire/not hire those that fail a drug test. I have zero problem with a private company determining their own requirements for employment.
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May 6, 2013 4:05pm
queencitybuckeye;1437596 wrote:I'm assuming you're talking about recreational use (we disagree but so what). I'm still waiting for a rational explanation why a child who has life-threatening seizures can't legally have a treatment known to be effective.
Glory Days;1437705 wrote:got a scientific study to prove it? some parent giving pot to their kid and saying it works isnt scientific.
GOONx19;1438627 wrote:
Glory Days;1438689 wrote:I dont know much about Nabiximal but from what i have read it works about 50% of the time, isnt exactly marijuana and isnt supposed to get you high.


Nabiximols works the same way as marijuana. It stimulates cannabinoid receptors CB1 and CB2 in the central nervous system and dorsal root ganglia as well as other site of the body. Peripheral CB2 receptors modulate immune function through cytokine release. Your initial post wasn't about getting a patient high, it was about whether or not it could reduce seizures. Stimulating these receptors does reduce seizures. You asked for a scientific study that proves this. I gave you one. This is a randomized, peer-reviewed, double-blind, controlled study. It's as high a level of evidence as you can get in medical literature. If you read it, instead of whatever else you've been reading, you'll see that is doesn't work only 50% of the time. There is a 98.8% reduction is spasm frequency when these receptors are stimulated, with a p-value of 0.005. This means that 99.5% of the time you will see this reduction in spasm frequency. The patient and the patient's caregivers should have the option to utilize this therapy if they so choose. Getting high is a potential side effect of more than just smoking weed.
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May 6, 2013 4:09pm
GOONx19;1438931 wrote:Nabiximols works the same way as marijuana. It stimulates cannabinoid receptors CB1 and CB2 in the central nervous system and dorsal root ganglia as well as other site of the body. Peripheral CB2 receptors modulate immune function through cytokine release. Your initial post wasn't about getting a patient high, it was about whether or not it could reduce seizures. Stimulating these receptors does reduce seizures. You asked for a scientific study that proves this. I gave you one. This is a randomized, peer-reviewed, double-blind, controlled study. It's as high a level of evidence as you can get in medical literature. If you read it, instead of whatever else you've been reading, you'll see that is doesn't work only 50% of the time. There is a 98.8% reduction is spasm frequency when these receptors are stimulated, with a p-value of 0.005. This means that 99.5% of the time you will see this reduction in spasm frequency. The patient and the patient's caregivers should have the option to utilize this therapy if they so choose. Getting high is a potential side effect of more than just smoking weed.
Boom.

And seriously, if a terminally ill patient claims it helps improve their quality of life, who the fuck is anyone to tell them "nah, bro"?
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May 6, 2013 4:52pm
This site wouldnt be so minor league if JIC cared 1/4th as much about it as he does about smoking pot legally.
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May 6, 2013 4:54pm
Good. Should be legal anyways.
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May 6, 2013 6:15pm
:laugh:I remember in high school we had to do this huge presentation on a controversial topic. Like 10 kids choose why marijuana should be legalized, the english teacher told the guidance counselor, and school police officer who they were, and each of them got tested and cars searched and busted.

I lol'd so hard at those stupid fucks, but seriously the fact I can drink beer and not smoke weed is insane. Someone high is barely out of it, and usually more fun when they are while alcoholics are usually total dicks and dangerous behind the wheel. You don't feel like you are spinning in circles on weed
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May 6, 2013 6:17pm
Classyposter58;1438972 wrote: Someone high is barely out of it, and usually more fun when they are while alcoholics are usually total dicks and dangerous behind the wheel. You don't feel like you are spinning in circles on weed
Seriously? You are going to put everybody in this category? Alcohol and weed affects everybody the same?
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justincredible
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May 6, 2013 6:41pm
Pick6;1438947 wrote:This site wouldnt be so minor league if JIC cared 1/4th as much about it as he does about smoking pot legally.

I apologize.
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May 6, 2013 6:59pm
Pick6;1438973 wrote:Seriously? You are going to put everybody in this category? Alcohol and weed affects everybody the same?
Oh come on drunk guy is way worse than high guy. What's the dude that's baked gonna do? Eat all your cool ranch doritios?
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May 6, 2013 8:14pm
Classyposter58;1438992 wrote:Oh come on drunk guy is way worse than high guy. What's the dude that's baked gonna do? Eat all your cool ranch doritios?
I've Dutch ovened for less. Someone wants to eat the original? Cool. Mess w/my cool ranch and it's go time.
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May 6, 2013 8:14pm
Classyposter58;1438992 wrote:Oh come on drunk guy is way worse than high guy. What's the dude that's baked gonna do? Eat all your cool ranch doritios?
I find them both pretty annoying when I am sober.
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May 6, 2013 10:39pm
like_that;1439083 wrote:I find them both pretty annoying when I am sober.
Well there's your mistake.
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May 7, 2013 12:47am
dlazz;1438797 wrote:You guys are also assuming that the price for weed would increase if it were legalized. The price is in its current ranges now because it is ILLEGAL. It would fall like a rock if it were legalized, and would very much likely be cheaper anyway even if they taxed the shit out of it.
i dont see how it wouldnt go up. you have to remember, big pharma is gonna get its hands on the deal. what about companies copyrighting the different combinations and blends etc? that would drive prices up.
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May 7, 2013 2:48am
Glory Days;1439278 wrote:what about companies copyrighting the different combinations and blends etc? that would drive prices up.
Good luck with that. Theirs so many different strains available right now, no way every possible plant could be "copyrighted" and against general public to grow and have.
Plus theirs all the hybrid crosses of different strains.

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http://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/199340-all-different-strains-pics-info.html



Only reason prices will go up is because nobody will want commercial brick weed anymore which is the cheapest.
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May 7, 2013 9:14am
Glory Days;1439278 wrote:i dont see how it wouldnt go up. you have to remember, big pharma is gonna get its hands on the deal. what about companies copyrighting the different combinations and blends etc? that would drive prices up.
If this is the case the black market will remain alive and well.