Con_Alma;1437893 wrote:I don't necessarily disagree with anything you have said. I do, however, believe that nothing you said matters with regard to sin.


Everyone is born into sin.

No one can avoid sin.

What makes the sin of homosexuality any different?

Con_Alma;1437903 wrote:If it is me you are seeking "support" from it would have to be me that concluded it was not a sin.

We all live the way God created us...in sin. The point is not that anyone of us is better than the other or more sinful than another but that we should be in a constant state of being closer to God and avoiding sin.

Con_Alma;1437908 wrote:?????

I don't know how you came to that conclucsion. I don't knowingly support anyone's sinful actions and certainly would rather folks not enable mine.

/Con_Alma'd

Con_Alma;1437903 wrote:If it is me you are seeking "support" from it would have to be me that concluded it was not a sin.

from this statement you say that in order to support someone who is a sinner you would have to conclude that it was not a sin.

in other statements you say that all of us our sinners

am i to assume that you dont support your friends and family that you have in your daily life? do you have to conclude that they dont sin to support them? you said homosexuality is not any different, yet you turn around and say to support them you must not see it as a sin. i dont get it? why hold them to a higher standard according to your rationale

Everyone born into sin =

You must embrace Jesus to be redeemed for your sins and gain access to heaven =

Attend church and "tithe" them your 10% =

A big man-made money grab by the church to help the sheep believe they're being absolved by the big mean ol' cloud of sin that was their existence since before birth.


Heretic: The OC's Official Myth Debunker.

Next.

Gblock;1437914 wrote:from this statement you say that in order to support someone who is a sinner you would have to conclude that it was not a sin.

in other statements you say that all of us our sinners

am i to assume that you dont support your friends and family that you have in your daily life? do you have to conclude that they dont sin to support them? you said homosexuality is not any different, yet you turn around and say to support them you must not see it as a sin. i dont get it? why hold them to a higher standard according to your rationale

No you do not have to assume that at all. I can support a person but not support their sinful actions. It's not an all or nothing decision.

I'm not holding anyone to a higher standard...including myself. I would support my wife in her career and as a mother but I will never enable her to routinely sin over and over.

Heretic;1437916 wrote:Attend church and "tithe" them your 10%

This is my frustration. I hate when church people [and unchurched people] say "tithe 10%."

A tithe is technically, by definition, "10%." So, what people say is "10% 10%." That makes no sense. It drives me nuts when I hear anyone talk about "tithing 10%."

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I take it Fairwood came out after his professional figure skating career ended?

OSH;1438161 wrote:[video=youtube;8_L3R2lJOdo][/video]

I must be missing something, because I dont see how this relates to the thread.

Apparently Collins had an 8 yrs affair with a woman who plays in the WNBA and is now going to sue Collins for wasting her best "fertility years". This is hysterically comical on so many levels I can't pick which is the funniest place to start. But I do know I now have to modify my rants on the NGBA* to include a whole new class of idiots.

*National Gangbangers & Gays Association

Tiernan;1438654 wrote:Apparently Collins had an 8 yrs affair with a woman who plays in the WNBA and is now going to sue Collins for wasting her best "fertility years". This is hysterically comical on so many levels I can't pick which is the funniest place to start. But I do know I now have to modify my rants on the NGBA* to include a whole new class of idiots.

*National Gangbangers & Gays Association

If anything, we should be making fun of you for being a drunk DUI douchebag with a kid in the "army" instead of you making fun of a person who is gay.

Pick6;1438299 wrote:I must be missing something, because I dont see how this relates to the thread.

That is Jason Collins' ex-fiancee.

Gblock;1437871 wrote:so con alma you dont believe that people can and are born gay? if someone is born with the 'switch' turned the wrong way isnt it god who created them that way? or the situation for the medical contition to make it that way? how is it then a sin for living the way you were created?

http://gawker.com/5941037/born-this-way-sympathy-and-science-for-those-who--want-to-have-sex-with-children

DeyDurkie5;1438685 wrote:If anything, we should be making fun of you for being a drunk DUI douchebag with a kid in the "army" instead of you making fun of a person who is gay.

I'm not making fun of him for being gay you moronic fool...I'm making fun of him and his obviously gay GF (WNBA...need I say more?) for being "together" for 8 yrs instaed of admitting to everyone and mostly to themselves that they like pipe and carpet instead of visa - versa like they tried to convey. I praise Collins for coming out but still think the NGBA* is a crap entertainment vehicle aimed at a certain portion of society which loves the thug life image.