Glory Days;1430508 wrote:over thinking it. these were young and dumb kids. there was no one directly telling them to do this. although they may feel they were doing this for someone or some greater "good", they werent working for anyone.
Do you even know what Martin's mom wants? I don't, but if you have some type of factual evidence that she wants to ban all people that come from countries that hate America to never come here, then please show me. I'm not sure that you do, seeing as how she suffered a serious brain injury during the attack and I'm guessing isn't in the proper condition to be releasing statements. Otherwise, your whole argument is based on assuming you know what one person might think.Tiernan;1430484 wrote:I guess to a liberal rights hugger what Martin's Mom wants doesn't mean a thing...let's let all peoples who come from countries that hate the USA into the country.
Granted that was our nation's calling card 200 yrs ago...unfortunately that "give me your huddled masses..." shit don't work today Sparky.
This is exactly what I think. The younger kid, from what we know of him and the people who knew him, just seems like he decided to do this out of nowhere. I think the older brother was part of something else entirely. Reports are already indicating that Tamerlan may have been taking orders, whether directly or indirectly, from a radical Muslim cleric named Feiz Mohammed.LJ;1430521 wrote:I think the older brother was part of a Chechen terrorist cell, but I think the younger brother was just going along with it
If thats the case, its interesting that the FBI checked into him and couldnt find anything.LJ;1430521 wrote:I think the older brother was part of a Chechen terrorist cell, but I think the younger brother was just going along with it
I'd be interested to know why Russia wanted him looked into to begin with. You'd think they had to know something.Pick6;1430532 wrote:If thats the case, its interesting that the FBI checked into him and couldnt find anything.
It's like how people can launder money for years while being investigated and the FBI and IRS don't figure it out until something goes to shit. In other words, he was most likely communicating with those who were so far removed from the known terrorists, that he brought suspicion, but nothing more. To be investigated by 2 countries, you have to be doing some pretty suspicious stuff. Becoming more and more religious, traveling to a country all of a sudden where terrorists pretty much run things. Making bombs that are the exact same as the IED's used in the middle east, with the same tactic (set one off, then have another in the direction you know people are going to flee to). There is more evidence to him being associated with these groups than not.Pick6;1430532 wrote:If thats the case, its interesting that the FBI checked into him and couldnt find anything.
This was never, in my view, in question. No way he was walking around mid-day carrying IEDs, grenades and guns while leaving behind a trail of blood. So, again, the police were never anywhere close to finding this guy. Had he not been injured and left traces of blood behind, he leaves the boat the next night and we possibly never hear from him again. Remember, he was already outside of the perimeter and already proved he could out-wit the authorities.Tiernan;1430536 wrote:Booyah! The photo everyone thought was of him surrending is really him climbing into the boat on Friday night...just like I called it. Suck on that Lowery!
The photo is from a surveillance camera near the backyard of the property where the boat was located and it shows Dzhokhar Tsarnaev entering the sea vessel at night.GOONx19;1430538 wrote:^ Which photo?
Show the photo. I still maintain he wasn't there the entire time.reclegend22;1430513 wrote:New surveillance imagery shows Dzhokhar Tsarnaev entering the boat at night.
Looking for link. Just saw it on the news.
wtf are you talking about?!?Tiernan;1430536 wrote:Booyah! The photo everyone thought was of him surrending is really him climbing into the boat on Friday night...just like I called it. Suck on that Lowery!
WTF I'm talking about is throwing down 4 Aces on top of whatever weak ass Full Boat you thought you had Vball. Sorry been watching too much Poker this afternoon.vball10set;1430540 wrote:Show the photo. I still maintain he wasn't there the entire time
wtf are you talking about?!?
vball10set;1430540 wrote:Show the photo. I still maintain he wasn't there the entire time.
All day is a pretty vague term. If they searched the guy's place in the very early morning, then maybe he was there all "daylight". But the homeowner noticed the shed or backdoor open, so presumably that occurred at some point during the day AFTER they searched.Pick6;1430498 wrote:Well yea, there is obviously going to be blood found in different places while he is running from the cops (which happened at night). I still maintain the belief based on what I can find and what has been presented that he was in the boat all day.
Look at the picture. He entered the boat at night. He wasn't going to and fro from the boat during the day.gut;1430544 wrote:All day is a pretty vague term. If they searched the guy's place in the very early morning, then maybe he was there all "daylight". But the homeowner noticed the shed or backdoor open, so presumably that occurred at some point during the day AFTER they searched.
He may very well have been in that boat for 5-6 hours or more. But curiously enough, with everyone in lock down it may not have been as hard to move around as you think. 9000 police officers (most of them only holding the perimeter) is probably less people than would normally be
on the street in an area that size, and it's not like locals are sitting there looking out their windows for the guy.
Congratulations. But let's remember: I was never arguing with you about when he entered the boat. In fact, I've never brought it up, because I don't care. I was asking you how you know what Martin Richard's mother wanted, since you seem to know. Arguing on the internet is hard sometimes, I get it. But if you could at least keep track of who's debating what, that'd make this a little bit easier. So try again.Tiernan;1430536 wrote:Booyah! The photo everyone thought was of him surrending is really him climbing into the boat on Friday night...just like I called it. Suck on that Lowery!
Based on the evidence of the hundreds of cell phone videos made from people's windows throughout Boston trying to get a peek at the happenings going on outside, I disagree. This guy was carrying guns, IEDS and explosives, according to reports. And bleeding all over the place. He wasn't walking around during the day.gut;1430544 wrote: and it's not like locals are sitting there looking out their windows for the guy.
Very well, although I think that time stamp cannot be accurate at 12:37AM, but it looks like nighttime.reclegend22;1430545 wrote:Look at the picture. He entered the boat at night. He wasn't going to and fro from the boat during the day.
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All we ever saw were shots of the perimeter. There weren't people standing outside, or probably at windows all day, in the interior. Still plenty of cover to move around. The only thing that really raises your risk of being seen in day vs night is more people active and on the streets, but it was locked down.reclegend22;1430547 wrote:Based on the evidence of the hundreds of cell phone videos made from people's windows throughout Boston trying to get a peek at the happenings going on outside, I disagree. This guy was carrying guns, IEDS and explosives, according to reports. And bleeding all over the place. He wasn't walking around during the day.
gut;1430550 wrote:Very well, although I think that time stamp cannot be accurate at 12:37AM, but it looks like nighttime.
