Oregon, NCAA agreed Ducks committed 'major violations'

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Apr 16, 2013 10:59 AM
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2013/04/oregon_ncaa_agreed_ducks_commi.html
The University of Oregon has agreed that its football coaches committed at least one major violation related to the NCAA's ongoing investigation into the Ducks' recruiting practices from 2008 to 2011. As a result, the university has proposed to self-impose a two-year probation for the football program and a reduction of one scholarship for each of the next three seasons.
We'll see if the NCAA decides to do anything else.
Apr 16, 2013 10:59am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:46 AM
According to the ESPN article I saw there were no findings of lack of institutional control or unethical conduct. Which would mean nothing really will happen.
Apr 16, 2013 11:46am
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Apr 16, 2013 11:51 AM
Might as well cheat.
Apr 16, 2013 11:51am
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Apr 16, 2013 1:33 PM
WebFire;1426704 wrote:Might as well cheat.
Yup.
Apr 16, 2013 1:33pm
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Apr 16, 2013 1:34 PM
Speaking of which, whats the word on this gambling situation at michigan web?
Apr 16, 2013 1:34pm
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Apr 16, 2013 2:04 PM
Midstate01;1426779 wrote:Speaking of which, whats the word on this gambling situation at michigan web?
My guess is it's made up. Haven't seen it mentioned on a single Michigan message board, including Rivals and 24/7. The only other person besides you to mention was another OSU friend of mine. I assume he got it from on OSU board.
Apr 16, 2013 2:04pm
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Apr 16, 2013 2:19 PM
WebFire;1426807 wrote:My guess is it's made up. Haven't seen it mentioned on a single Michigan message board, including Rivals and 24/7. The only other person besides you to mention was another OSU friend of mine. I assume he got it from on OSU board.

I saw it directly from some Michigan journalist that works with rivals.
Apr 16, 2013 2:19pm
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Apr 16, 2013 2:21 PM
Midstate01;1426823 wrote:I saw it directly from some Michigan journalist that works with rivals.

Actually he just retweeted it. I've never heard of either of the two guys reporting it. You'd think michigan would just come out and squash it down. Assuming they even know about it.
Apr 16, 2013 2:21pm
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Apr 16, 2013 2:37 PM
I did see one thread on Scout. But they also said it was unconfirmed. Wouldn't surprise me from that kid.
Apr 16, 2013 2:37pm
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Apr 16, 2013 2:39 PM
Not even a mention on the Rivals main board.
Apr 16, 2013 2:39pm
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Apr 16, 2013 5:13 PM
gorocks99;1426660 wrote:http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2013/04/oregon_ncaa_agreed_ducks_commi.html

We'll see if the NCAA decides to do anything else.
Seems like we know why Chip Kelly pulled a Pete Carrol. I doubt if any program out there is "clean" anymore.
Apr 16, 2013 5:13pm
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Apr 16, 2013 7:39 PM
hmmm, ya don't say
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Commander of Awesome;1426926 wrote:Seems like we know why Chip Kelly pulled a Pete Carrol. I doubt if any program out there is "clean" anymore.
I'm sure there's programs out there, but the "big boys" are probably all dirty.
Apr 18, 2013 11:55am
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Apr 18, 2013 9:48 PM
If you really dig into the NCAA bylaws, every single institution that has athletics has broken rules. I mean it's human nature, it happens.
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Apr 20, 2013 10:59 PM
Midstate01;1426827 wrote:Actually he just retweeted it. I've never heard of either of the two guys reporting it. You'd think michigan would just come out and squash it down. Assuming they even know about it.
"The University of Michigan has confirmed that the NCAA is not investigating any Michigan football student-athlete for sports wagering activities. Any reports to the contrary are false."
Apr 20, 2013 10:59pm
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Jun 26, 2013 10:55 AM
No link but ESPN just said 3 yrs probation and scholy reductions. NO Bowl Ban!
Jun 26, 2013 10:55am
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Jun 26, 2013 10:58 AM
Chip Kelly 18 mos show clause. Failure to monitor.

Ducks got off easy!
Jun 26, 2013 10:58am
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Jun 26, 2013 11:06 AM
The NCAA is a joke, Oregon paid a street agent to get recruits, tried to cover it up and gets almost no punishment....
Jun 26, 2013 11:06am
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Jun 26, 2013 11:25 AM
NCAA found a way to punish OSU from the Mo C shit IMO! Such BS!
Jun 26, 2013 11:25am
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Jun 26, 2013 11:25 AM
http://www.goducks.com/pdf9/2348690.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=500

Full report here


What a shame by the NCAA, this punishment serves as no deterrent whatsoever.
Jun 26, 2013 11:25am
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Jun 26, 2013 11:47 AM
Wow, this is weak ass shit. I don't know the details of the recent punishments handed out to know how they justified their punishments. But from a public perception stand point I honestly don't know how the reconcile the differences between OSU, Oregon, PSU, etc.

Basically the team that actually intentionally cheated and broke the rules in order to gain a competitive advantage (Oregon) got the least damaging punishment even though their behavior was probably the most detrimental to the fairness of the college game.
Jun 26, 2013 11:47am
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Jun 26, 2013 12:08 PM
Fly4Fun;1462917 wrote: even though their behavior was probably the most detrimental to the fairness of the college game.

Excuse my French but you're a f*cking retard if you truly believe that. Ohio State lied to keep players eligible for a championship run, while Oregon cheated to get recruits who have no guarantee of panning out.
Jun 26, 2013 12:08pm
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Jun 26, 2013 12:20 PM
lhslep134;1462948 wrote:Excuse my French but you're a f*cking retard if you truly believe that. Ohio State lied to keep players eligible for a championship run, while Oregon cheated to get recruits who have no guarantee of panning out.
Championship run? They had already lost at Wisconsin and we're going to get to Championship game. I might be wrong, but wasn't Tressel's lie between the time of the last regular season game and before the bowl game, and the bowl they were selected for already announced? The only thing to gain by lying at that point was a victory in a bowl game, no championship.

And yes, while recruits don't always pan out, these were highly sought after recruits from Texas. These werent' 3 star guys, wasn't 1 of the recruits (unsure if there were more than 1 involved with Lyles) the 5 star RB who is now at Baylor? And I believe LaMichael James was another Lyles "recruit."

I don't know, but paying off "recruiting experts" with cold hard cash to get recruits to your school sure seems more nefarious then lying about tattoo's traded for memorabilia.

I'm not saying that Tressel covering up for his guys wasn't dumb or didn't deserve punishment. But what Oregon did is at the very least equally as bad.
Jun 26, 2013 12:20pm
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Jun 26, 2013 12:35 PM
Uncle Phil wrote the NCAA another check.
Jun 26, 2013 12:35pm
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Jun 26, 2013 12:43 PM
Excuse my French but you're a f*cking retard if you truly believe that. Ohio State lied to keep players eligible for a championship run, while Oregon cheated to get recruits who have no guarantee of panning out.
This is the kind of hair splitting that is exactly the problem with NCAA enforcement and its arbitrary rulings.

What I find refreshing is that most people have woken up to this and the abomination that the NCAA has become. A few years ago when the 'scandal' broke with Jim Tressel, I was practically a lone wolf on this site in decrying the NCAA and what it does in the name of amateur athletics. It is great to be vindicated.
What still escapes most peoples attention, however, is the way it abuses/restricts its 'student' athletes from monetary gain( even in chump change amounts) while raking in $millions for itself and member institutions. What the NCAA did to Devier Posey was shocking for the few hundred dollars of 'improper' ( or so the NCAA said)benefits he received. This only happens because of the complicity of the NCAA, its member institutions, and the media all of who feed off the cash cow of college athletics.....and the fans are complicit too, looking the other way and justifying and rationalizing.
Jun 26, 2013 12:43pm