
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 15, 2013 8:46pm
reclegend22;1426038 wrote:Also not that impressive considering some of the runners ahead of him had their legs blown off and did not get to finish the race. The kid from Van Wert realistically probably finished somewhere between 20 and 30. Hopefully the race officials will adjust the standings accordingly when the final body counts come out.
This is unrecoverable. You have taken Fairwoodkings crown.

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 15, 2013 8:47pm
The winner of the mens race finished in at 2 hour 10 minutes and 36 seconds I believe. But the do different starts so that was probably for the normal racers and not the "elite"Midstate01;1426256 wrote:Espn saying winners crossed finish line 3 hours before explosion. Thats not possible right?? I swore the video showed the clock at 4 hours and 9 minutes. No way anyone runs 26 miles in an hour.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Apr 15, 2013 8:50pm
Eh, at least Rec acknowledged he was wrong.bases_loaded;1426259 wrote:This is unrecoverable. You have taken Fairwoodkings crown.
The world record is right around two hours, I think.Midstate01;1426256 wrote:Espn saying winners crossed finish line 3 hours before explosion. Thats not possible right?? I swore the video showed the clock at 4 hours and 9 minutes. No way anyone runs 26 miles in an hour.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 15, 2013 8:51pm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323346304578424950102614148.html
5 additional undetonated devices in the area.
5 additional undetonated devices in the area.

said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Apr 15, 2013 8:52pm
Is the utmost example of bad taste reason enough to ban someone to the basement?reclegend22;1426038 wrote:Also not that impressive considering some of the runners ahead of him had their legs blown off and did not get to finish the race. The kid from Van Wert realistically probably finished somewhere between 20 and 30. Hopefully the race officials will adjust the standings accordingly when the final body counts come out.

chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Apr 15, 2013 8:59pm
wildcats20;1426265 wrote:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323346304578424950102614148.html
5 additional undetonated devices in the area.
Good lord. Hate think what could have been...

chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Apr 15, 2013 9:01pm
Third death confirmed. Awful.

tk421
Posts: 8,500
Apr 15, 2013 9:05pm
If that is true about the 5 additional devices found, no way this is the work of a single person.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 15, 2013 9:06pm
So are we now 100% (or at least very close to that) certain this was an act of terrorism? 50/50 split on domestic vs international?tk421;1426290 wrote:If that is true about the 5 additional devices found, no way this is the work of a single person.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 15, 2013 9:06pm
Why not? Could just walk past a trashcan and drop something in it.tk421;1426290 wrote:If that is true about the 5 additional devices found, no way this is the work of a single person.
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MontyBrunswick
Apr 15, 2013 9:06pm
What brings that conclusion, detective?tk421;1426290 wrote:If that is true about the 5 additional devices found, no way this is the work of a single person.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 15, 2013 9:14pm
If there really were 5 more live devices, why weren't they detonated? 2 duds, maybe, but given the other two went off in such coordinated fashion no way you had 5 duds. Perhaps one or more co-conspirators had a change of heart.wildcats20;1426292 wrote:Why not? Could just walk past a trashcan and drop something in it.
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MontyBrunswick
Apr 15, 2013 9:16pm
If the bombs were remotely activated by cell phones that could be the reason.gut;1426307 wrote:If there really were 5 more live devices, why weren't they detonated? 2 duds, maybe, but given the other two went off in such coordinated fashion no way you had 5 duds. Perhaps one or more co-conspirators had a change of heart.

said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Apr 15, 2013 9:17pm
CNN is saying their was a dark skinned foreign speaking individual wearing a black sweatshirt carrying a black bag who was prevented access near the finish line shortly before the explosions.SportsAndLady;1426291 wrote:So are we now 100% (or at least very close to that) certain this was an act of terrorism? 50/50 split on domestic vs international?
I'd say the split is 95% international terrorism.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 15, 2013 9:18pm
dlazz;1426310 wrote:If the bombs were remotely activated by cell phones that could be the reason.
If that ever comes out as truth. Then someone deserves a huge medal and props.
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MontyBrunswick
Apr 15, 2013 9:20pm
Someone deserving the props would probably be Sprint/ATT/Verizon/whoevers piss-poor infrastructure that probably couldnt support the hundreds of thousands of people whipping out their phones at the drop of a hat.Midstate01;1426315 wrote:If that ever comes out as truth. Then someone deserves a huge medal and props.
The surge of users probably killed the cell phones initially...the cell operators might have helped it along after the fact.

pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Apr 15, 2013 9:20pm
Sounds about right, Wars about to be over.said_aouita;1426314 wrote:CNN is saying their was a dark skinned foreign speaking individual wearing a black sweatshirt carrying a black bag who was prevented access near the finish line shortly before the explosions.
I'd say the split is 95% international terrorism.

said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Apr 15, 2013 9:20pm
It was not as coordinated as originally planned. Sounds like (either) one individual or multiple people were prevented access to a restricted area near the finish line.gut;1426307 wrote:If there really were 5 more live devices, why weren't they detonated? 2 duds, maybe, but given the other two went off in such coordinated fashion no way you had 5 duds. Perhaps one or more co-conspirators had a change of heart.
I believe once the plan broke down and they couldn't get to exactly where as planned only two bombs got set off in the general spectator area.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 15, 2013 9:24pm
dlazz;1426319 wrote:Someone deserving the props would probably be Sprint/ATT/Verizon/whoevers piss-poor infrastructure that probably couldnt support the hundreds of thousands of people whipping out their phones at the drop of a hat.
The surge of users probably killed the cell phones initially...the cell operators might have helped it along after the fact.
But there were reports earlier that cell service was cut off by authorities whem they suspected a cell could be detonator
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 15, 2013 9:26pm
If you're implying they shutdown the networks to prevent more bombs from going off, besides that not being clear they did that it almost certainly doesn't happen quick enough.dlazz;1426310 wrote:If the bombs were remotely activated by cell phones that could be the reason.
But perhaps the two that went off were on timers and maybe the others were by cell that malfunctioned.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 15, 2013 9:30pm
Pure speculation. If they were using cell phones, not hard to re-coordinate. Or simply once the first blast goes off the others could have just as easily detonated, which at least one did (assuming there were multiple conspirators).said_aouita;1426323 wrote: I believe once the plan broke down and they couldn't get to exactly where as planned only two bombs got set off in the general spectator area.
One or two people trying to explode multiple device remotely...yeah, then I could see the network crashing before they were able to do that.

said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Apr 15, 2013 9:34pm
Yea I'm not rebutting this. The placement of the bombs is all I'm saying.gut;1426336 wrote:
One or two people trying to explode multiple device remotely...yeah, then I could see the network crashing before they were able to do that.

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 15, 2013 9:34pm
Verizon and Sprint both denied that any request to cut off service was placed.Midstate01;1426328 wrote:But there were reports earlier that cell service was cut off by authorities whem they suspected a cell could be detonator

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 15, 2013 9:37pm
Well alright then. Good info. Hadn't heard that.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 15, 2013 9:42pm
I'd call this terrorism. No idea on domestic or international. Im actually leaning towards domestic seeing that it seems Newton families were targeted.SportsAndLady;1426291 wrote:So are we now 100% (or at least very close to that) certain this was an act of terrorism? 50/50 split on domestic vs international?
Yea, just like the Saudi Arabian that was tackled because he was running away from the explosion (like everybody else). Or the supposed Saudi Arabian suspect who was detained in the hospital. He was prevented access so, how could he have planted the bomb, and if he did plant it why would he be going back to it? Its a possibility it is a foreigner, but I cannot stand this racist bullshit.said_aouita;1426314 wrote:CNN is saying their was a dark skinned foreign speaking individual wearing a black sweatshirt carrying a black bag who was prevented access near the finish line shortly before the explosions.
I'd say the split is 95% international terrorism.