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Mar 4, 2013 1:26 PM
These are four bubble teams; based on the below, which two deserve to get into the tournament?

Team A:
17-11 (9-7)
Overall SOS: 39
Non-conference SOS: 37
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 0-2
Record vs RPI top 50: 2-3
Record vs RPI top 100: 8-9
Best 3 wins by RPI: #6, #40, #51
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 2 (@ #128, #128)

Team B:
18-9 (8-6)
Overall SOS: 70
Non-conference SOS: 73
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 1-3
Record vs RPI top 50: 1-5
Record vs RPI top 100: 8-7
Best 3 wins by RPI: @ #45, #73, #78
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 2 (@ #105, @ #145)

Team C:
21-8 (9-5)
Overall SOS: 50
Non-conference SOS: 59
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 1-3
Record vs RPI top 50: 3-3
Record vs RPI top 100: 9-5
Best 3 wins by RPI: #15, #28, #45
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 3 (#105, @ #109, @ #217)

Team D:
19-10 (9-7)
Overall SOS: 62
Non-conference SOS: 171
Road/Neutral Record vs RPI top 50: 0-6
Record vs RPI top 50: 2-7
Record vs RPI top 100: 5-8
Best 3 wins by RPI: #18, #22, #59
Bad losses (RPI 101+): 2 (@ #126, @ #224)
Mar 4, 2013 1:26pm
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Mar 4, 2013 1:38 PM
B and C just looking it over real quick
Mar 4, 2013 1:38pm
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Mar 4, 2013 1:43 PM
Team C. That is the only one. Maybe team A, maybe.
Mar 4, 2013 1:43pm
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Mar 4, 2013 1:51 PM
At first glance I thought A and B, but after looking over it again I think A and C.
Mar 4, 2013 1:51pm
G

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Mar 4, 2013 2:16 PM
A should get props for the SOS, it sets a good precedent to teams to play people. Team c after that
Mar 4, 2013 2:16pm
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Mar 4, 2013 2:21 PM
C
A


B
D
Mar 4, 2013 2:21pm
F

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Mar 4, 2013 2:51 PM
C seems to be the best. And and I would say D is the best of the rest.
Mar 4, 2013 2:51pm
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Mar 4, 2013 3:22 PM
C

A
D

B

C is the only one I'd be gung-ho about getting in.

A and D are both kind of okay for me, but A's overall SoS and having a win over RPI #6 puts them above D, who has two home wins over top 25 RPI teams, but a weak-ass non-conference schedule. The fact their overall SoS is #62 says they have a very good conference and they are 9-7 in it, which is a big positive, though.

B's main positive is a road win over a top 50 RPI team. But they're pretty blah aside from that.
Mar 4, 2013 3:22pm
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Mar 4, 2013 4:02 PM
C is the only one I like.

But then Id go B.
Mar 4, 2013 4:02pm
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Mar 4, 2013 5:06 PM
Thanks for playing. Looks like you agree with the consensus to a point -

[sp]Team C, the team you all like, is Temple, and while a bubble team, they seem a pretty good pick to make the tournament.

Team A is Tennessee (in Jerry Palm's latest bracket)
Team B is Massachusetts (in Jerry Palm's latest bracket)
Team D is Iowa State (last four out)[/sp]
Mar 4, 2013 5:06pm
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Mar 4, 2013 5:16 PM
C should be in already. All the others have some work to do, but I like A moving forward.
Mar 4, 2013 5:16pm
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Mar 4, 2013 5:21 PM
Does ESPN use a different SOS formula? They've got Temple 51, Tennessee 26, UMass 75, and Iowa State 65.

In this case I'd move Tennessee in.
Mar 4, 2013 5:21pm
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Mar 4, 2013 5:30 PM
GOONx19;1399977 wrote:Does ESPN use a different SOS formula? They've got Temple 51, Tennessee 26, UMass 75, and Iowa State 65.

In this case I'd move Tennessee in.
Strange. I pulled my SOS from here http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/TENN/UMASS, which I think aligns with rpiforecast as well: http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html
Mar 4, 2013 5:30pm
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Mar 4, 2013 5:35 PM
I honestly didn't know Tennessee was having a decent run as of late. Or UMass. And I assumed Iowa State was doing better. This year is going to be crazy.
Mar 4, 2013 5:35pm
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Mar 4, 2013 7:10 PM
No to Tennessee. Trash team.
Mar 4, 2013 7:10pm
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Mar 4, 2013 7:46 PM
sleeper;1399810 wrote:Team C. That is the only one. Maybe team A, maybe.
Finds out Tennessee is Team A.
sleeper;1400058 wrote:No to Tennessee. Trash team.
lol..from "maybe" to "trash" and all it took was someone putting a name to the stats.
Mar 4, 2013 7:46pm
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Mar 4, 2013 8:17 PM
If Tennessee played in the B1G, they'd finish behind Penn State. They are not good.
Mar 4, 2013 8:17pm