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pmoney25
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Mar 19, 2013 11:15pm
I was let go from a job because my boss found out I was searching for a new job. A "friend " of mine who I knew before I even worked there told on me.

Worked out well because I now have the best job I have ever had but I would never tell anyone boss you are job searching.
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Mar 20, 2013 12:02am
pmoney25;1409630 wrote:I was let go from a job because my boss found out I was searching for a new job. A "friend " of mine who I knew before I even worked there told on me.

Worked out well because I now have the best job I have ever had but I would never tell anyone boss you are job searching.
I applied to my current job before I left my last one, and the woman interviewing me asked for my boss's contact information for a reference. I explained to her that I would prefer that my boss not know I'm looking until after I am officially offered the job. She understood and asked for a prior employer. I obliged. Worked fine.

I don't know for certain that all hirers would accomodate like that, but I can't imagine that too many would push back with those curcumstances.
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ts1227
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Mar 21, 2013 7:14pm
Just got a promotion and a big raise

Hope this helps
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 21, 2013 10:00pm
I still haven't heard anything from anyone.
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Mar 21, 2013 11:51pm
dlazz;1411405 wrote:I still haven't heard anything from anyone.
You and I both...

I have 3 applications out for coaching jobs -- doubt I'll hear anything. I believe I'll take the high school coaching job that was offered and then piece together other income through adjunct instructing and other side gigs. I could move to Kansas for a job, but that's really the last thing I want to do.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 22, 2013 12:16pm
OSH;1411485 wrote: I have 3 applications out

Psshh. That's nothing. I probably have about 7-8 outstanding apps at any given time.
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OSH
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Mar 22, 2013 1:04pm
dlazz;1411673 wrote:Psshh. That's nothing. I probably have about 7-8 outstanding apps at any given time.
I know it's not much. I have that many that I am waiting to hear back from. I've already applied to 20+ jobs this season. In the last 4 years, it's over 100.
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OSH
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Mar 22, 2013 2:01pm
I guess, I didn't include that I do have 5-10 other apps out there in careers that I haven't been in for the last 6. I often forget about them because not much happens from those.
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gut
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Mar 23, 2013 4:27am
OSH;1411699 wrote:I know it's not much. I have that many that I am waiting to hear back from. I've already applied to 20+ jobs this season. In the last 4 years, it's over 100.
Great googly moogly...You should be doing at least two quality apps PER DAY. If you currently have a job, then you can be much more selective.

If you can't find enough openings to do 2 apps a day, then you should be networking or something for those unposted jobs.

I don't know your background and specific situation, but a general rule of thumb is maybe 2-3 interviews out of 100 apps with no "in" or connection. And it might take 10 interviews to land a job...so 400+ cold apps.
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Mar 23, 2013 10:06am
gut;1412277 wrote:Great googly moogly...You should be doing at least two quality apps PER DAY. If you currently have a job, then you can be much more selective.

If you can't find enough openings to do 2 apps a day, then you should be networking or something for those unposted jobs.

I don't know your background and specific situation, but a general rule of thumb is maybe 2-3 interviews out of 100 apps with no "in" or connection. And it might take 10 interviews to land a job...so 400+ cold apps.
Out of my 100+ apps, I've had 6 interviews and 3 (may come to 4, if I accept this HS job) jobs accepted. The problem with my career is there are only certain periods where jobs open up -- November and December, then it takes a break late January through February, another short break and they have started opening up again. My career has job seasons, can't really apply at 2 jobs per day because they aren't open.

It is also HIGHLY political. It's all about who you know (and I realize it's that way with mostly every job). People want to hire who they know and who they are comfortable with. For example: I applied for a job that came open on a Friday, I found out on the following Monday or Tuesday that it was already filled. The guy who got the job has 2 less years of experience than me AND numerous licences fewer than what I have. He walked into the job because he knew the outgoing guy.

I was turned down from a job two years ago because I "wasn't qualified enough." I was more qualified than my interim superior. I didn't even make it to an on-site interview, only made it to a top-5 phone interview. No one applying for that job was more qualified than me -- guarantee.

Now, I have started applying for jobs out of my current career. I can definitely understand doing numerous applications per day with that. It's a bit overwhelming to see all these other positions available and I am not qualified for any of them. Career changes suck. Especially when you've put so much time, effort, energy, emotion, and MONEY towards what you are currently doing.
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sleeper
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Mar 23, 2013 10:16am
You know OSH, you could always just pray for money. After all, god is all you need! :laugh:
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 25, 2013 11:25am
The job I applied and interviewed twice for has been reposted. Guess they were honest when they said they were broadening the applicant pool.
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Mar 25, 2013 1:01pm
dlazz;1414083 wrote:The job I applied and interviewed twice for has been reposted. Guess they were honest when they said they were broadening the applicant pool.
Apply again :D!
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Mar 25, 2013 1:11pm
Iliketurtles;1414133 wrote:Apply again :D!
This isn't bad advice. I'd apply again. :thumbup:
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 25, 2013 1:21pm
I already did. It won't pan out, although I have a degree from one of the premiere universities in the United States.
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Mar 25, 2013 1:22pm
dlazz;1414151 wrote:I already did. It won't pan out, although I have a degree from one of the premiere universities in the United States.
Marietta?
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Mar 25, 2013 1:22pm
dlazz;1414151 wrote:I already did. It won't pan out, although I have a degree from one of the premiere universities in the United States.
B1G?
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 25, 2013 1:23pm
sleeper;1414155 wrote:B1G?
Yes, one of the B1G schools. I won't mention names, but it's in Columbus.
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sleeper
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Mar 25, 2013 1:34pm
dlazz;1414156 wrote:Yes, one of the B1G schools. I won't mention names, but it's in Columbus.
What was your degree in?
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 25, 2013 1:45pm
sleeper;1414161 wrote:What was your degree in?
Doesn't matter. B1G degrees are basically printed in gold.

Also, my degree is completely irrelevant to the position I applied for.
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WebFire
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Mar 25, 2013 1:47pm
dlazz;1414168 wrote:Doesn't matter. B1G degrees are basically printed in gold.

Also, my degree is completely irrelevant to the position I applied for.
Then it does matter, no?
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Mar 25, 2013 1:48pm
WebFire;1414170 wrote:Then it does matter, no?
Not to sleeper.
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sleeper
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Mar 25, 2013 1:56pm
dlazz;1414168 wrote:Doesn't matter. B1G degrees are basically printed in gold.

Also, my degree is completely irrelevant to the position I applied for.
Criminal justice.
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sleeper
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Mar 25, 2013 1:59pm
Look, Ohio State is a great school, but it's bread and butter is the business school, soon to be the entire engineering department(MIT will be known as the OSU of the East soon), and the medical school. If you aren't graduating with a degree in one of these, I don't care that your degree is from a B1G institution. Now you are certainly better off with a B1G degree, but you actually need to major in something valuable.
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MontyBrunswick
Mar 25, 2013 2:03pm
sleeper;1414181 wrote:it's bread and butter is the business school
that can be said about virtually every university.