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Feb 15, 2013 9:45 AM
sleeper;1389684 wrote:Well when it's all made up anyway, my assumptions are just as valid as yours. It's EZ.
...then assuming God "allows" bacteria answers your above questions.
Feb 15, 2013 9:45am
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Feb 15, 2013 9:47 AM
sleeper;1389685 wrote:So what caused you to validate one religion over another? Why is your faith right and the others wrong?
For an expanded answer read past threads whereby you asked this question.

In short, the presence of the Holy Spirit combined with immersion in the Holy Word.
Feb 15, 2013 9:47am
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Feb 15, 2013 10:22 AM
Con_Alma;1389689 wrote:For an expanded answer read past threads whereby you asked this question.

In short, the presence of the Holy Spirit combined with immersion in the Holy Word.
So other religions lack a made up entity? Interesting. :laugh:
Feb 15, 2013 10:22am
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Feb 15, 2013 10:22 AM
Con_Alma;1389687 wrote:...then assuming God "allows" bacteria answers your above questions.
Probably shouldn't wash your hands then, "thou shall not murder"...
Feb 15, 2013 10:22am
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Feb 15, 2013 10:30 AM
sleeper;1389714 wrote:So other religions lack a made up entity? Interesting. :laugh:

???? I don't know if they do or not.
Feb 15, 2013 10:30am
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Feb 15, 2013 10:31 AM
sleeper;1389715 wrote:Probably shouldn't wash your hands then, "thou shall not murder"...
We are all sinful. It can't be avoided. That's the beauty of the Gospel. It is He that "washed our hands".
Feb 15, 2013 10:31am
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Feb 15, 2013 11:01 AM
Con_Alma;1389729 wrote:We are all sinful. It can't be avoided. That's the beauty of the Gospel. It is He that "washed our hands".
Fair enough. I can now label every believer a murderer. Nice to know you support and condone this action because sin cannot be avoided.
Feb 15, 2013 11:01am
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Feb 15, 2013 11:03 AM
Con_Alma;1389727 wrote:???? I don't know if they do or not.
I thought you studied all religions and sifted through their BS before choosing your current beliefs. If you didn't study them all, how can you be certain that you've picked the right one? If you did study them all, please list what those religions don't have(note: they ALL have made up entities like the Holy Spirit) that yours does? I'd be interested in hearing your analysis.
Feb 15, 2013 11:03am
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Feb 15, 2013 11:05 AM
sleeper;1389747 wrote:Fair enough. I can now label every believer a murderer. Nice to know you support and condone this action because sin cannot be avoided.
You can label anyone, anything you wish.
Feb 15, 2013 11:05am
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Feb 15, 2013 11:07 AM
sleeper;1389750 wrote:I thought you studied all religions and sifted through their BS before choosing your current beliefs. If you didn't study them all, how can you be certain that you've picked the right one? If you did study them all, please list what those religions don't have(note: they ALL have made up entities like the Holy Spirit) that yours does? I'd be interested in hearing your analysis.
Why do you think I studied all relgions?

I can be certain of Christianity for the reasons I previously stated above and in other threads. In short, the presence of the Holy Spirit combined with immersion in the Holy Word.
Feb 15, 2013 11:07am
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Feb 15, 2013 11:33 AM
Con_Alma;1389756 wrote:Why do you think I studied all relgions?

I can be certain of Christianity for the reasons I previously stated above and in other threads. In short, the presence of the Holy Spirit combined with immersion in the Holy Word.
Well you had to come to a conclusion to reject all other beliefs and ascertain your own. I asked how you could do this without studying all other religions to verify that they are wrong and you are correct.
Feb 15, 2013 11:33am
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Feb 15, 2013 11:33 AM
Con_Alma;1389755 wrote:You can label anyone, anything you wish.
In the eyes of the law?
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Feb 15, 2013 11:34 AM
sleeper;1389780 wrote:In the eyes of the law?
I don't think in the eyes of the law, no.
Feb 15, 2013 11:34am
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Feb 15, 2013 11:34 AM
Con_Alma;1389781 wrote:I don't think i the eyes of the law, no.
Then clearly I cannot.
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Feb 15, 2013 11:36 AM
sleeper;1389779 wrote:Well you had to come to a conclusion to reject all other beliefs and ascertain your own. I asked how you could do this without studying all other religions to verify that they are wrong and you are correct.
I answered that question. I'll state it differently for you.

I came to a conclusion of validity by nature of the presence of the Holy Spirit combined with immersion in the Holy Scripture. Have such a conclusion of validity eliminates the need to further investigate others.
Feb 15, 2013 11:36am
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Feb 15, 2013 11:37 AM
sleeper;1389782 wrote:Then clearly I cannot.
Sure you can...it just won't be legal...in the eyes of the law.
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Feb 15, 2013 11:57 AM
Con_Alma;1389783 wrote:I answered that question. I'll state it differently for you.

I came to a conclusion of validity by nature of the presence of the Holy Spirit combined with immersion in the Holy Scripture. Have such a conclusion of validity eliminates the need to further investigate others.
I'm curious how you were able to validate an unproven entity.
Feb 15, 2013 11:57am
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Feb 15, 2013 11:58 AM
Con_Alma;1389784 wrote:Sure you can...it just won't be legal...in the eyes of the law.
:thumbup:
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Feb 15, 2013 12:03 PM
sleeper;1389791 wrote:I'm curious how you were able to validate an unproven entity.
I've answered that. The presence of the Holy Spirit combined with immersion in the Holy Scripture.
Feb 15, 2013 12:03pm
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Feb 15, 2013 12:09 PM
Con_Alma;1389793 wrote:I've answered that. The presence of the Holy Spirit combined with immersion in the Holy Scripture.
I'm curious as to how you were able to validate the presence of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Scripture.
Feb 15, 2013 12:09pm
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Feb 15, 2013 12:10 PM
sleeper;1389798 wrote:I'm curious as to how you were able to validate the presence of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Scripture.
The divine pull towards seeking out Christ combined with the warmth and Peace felt.
Feb 15, 2013 12:10pm
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Feb 15, 2013 12:56 PM
Con_Alma;1389800 wrote:The divine pull towards seeking out Christ combined with the warmth and Peace felt.
Do you use this methodology to validate anything else in your life? Say gravity?
Feb 15, 2013 12:56pm
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Feb 15, 2013 1:10 PM
Dear lord, this thread has devolved ...
sleeper;1389779 wrote:I asked how you could do this without studying all other religions to verify that they are wrong and you are correct.

Not that I wish to get in between you two, but once you find out that the answer to 3+3 is 9, do you have to check all the other natural numbers, ad infinitum, to make sure they're not also the answer to 3+3?
sleeper;1389826 wrote:Do you use this methodology to validate anything else in your life? Say gravity?
Things that are, by their very definition, subject to physical laws should be treated as such. Things that are, by their very definition, not subject to physical laws should be be treated as such.

-just like-

Things that can be determined by olfactory sensation should be treated as such. Things that cannot be determined by olfactory sensation should be treated as such.

To suggest otherwise is known as a category fallacy.
Feb 15, 2013 1:10pm
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Feb 15, 2013 1:13 PM
Not that I wish to get in between you two, but once you find out that the answer to 3+3 is 9, do you have to check all the other natural numbers, ad infinitum, to make sure they're not also the answer to 3+3?
3+3 = 9? Christ.
Feb 15, 2013 1:13pm
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Feb 15, 2013 1:21 PM
Also, 3+3 = 6 is a mathematical proof verifiable through logic and reason. You also don't devote your whole lifestyle around a simple equation nor indoctrinate your children with that knowledge through an ancient textbook. I mean the amount of logical leaps and stretches you have to go through to make this comparison would tire even a runner from Kenya.

Why even bother with science at all? Like I said, next time you are injured, don't go to the hospital just pray to god and see how that works out for you. :laugh:
Feb 15, 2013 1:21pm