Archive 2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

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BR1986FB

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Jan 25, 2013 10:35am

like_that;1374450 wrote:Do you know what Baylor ran when he was playing college?

Pretty sure they ran a 4-3 when Taylor was there and morphed to a 4-2-5 in recent years.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Jan 25, 2013 10:45am

like_that;1374422 wrote:What is on your wish list for FA? I want them to resign certain players currently on the team (i.e. Haden), so whatever they do, they can't purge all the funds.

Retaining funds to resign these guys is definitely an important thing to keep in mind. That being said, I go cheaper on the WR pickup with Kevin Ogletree (to play slot, Gordon 1 Little 2). Also either Schwartz or Levitre, not both (let the current Gs compete for a spot). On Defense we have to sign Anthony Spencer. I'd also like to see LaRon Landry and Brent Grimes.

Assuming we don't trade down: Draft a OLB first round. DE depth 4th round (still think they're goin QB 3rd round: Tyler Bray or Logan Thomas)

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BR1986FB

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Jan 25, 2013 10:51am

Spencer is a good call. Forgot about him.

Not sure Little is a #2. Think he's more suited to the slot. That's part of the reason I'm not high on them bringing in Greg Jennings. He's not a true #1 but flourishes when they put him in the slot.

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buckeyes_woowee

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Jan 25, 2013 11:11am

DE- Taylor
NT- Rubin, Hughes
DE- Winn

OLB- Spencer
ILB- Jackson
ILB- JMJ
OLB- Sheard / Rookie

I think this starting front 7 will be fine. LB depth is the only thing that will scare me. People seem to forget that NFL players are world class athletes. Part of being a great player is adapting and developing.

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BR1986FB

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Jan 25, 2013 11:13am

buckeyes_woowee;1374501 wrote:DE- Taylor
NT- Rubin, Hughes
DE- Winn

OLB- Spencer
ILB- Jackson
ILB- JMJ
OLB- Sheard / Rookie

I think this starting front 7 will be fine. LB depth is the only thing that will scare me. People seem to forget that NFL players are world class athletes. Part of being a great player is adapting and developing.

I'm assuming Gocong will be in the mix at LB.

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buckeyes_woowee

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Jan 25, 2013 11:18am

Gocong slipped my mind. I also think JMJ will be a better fit in the 3-4.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Jan 25, 2013 11:40am

BR1986FB;1374503 wrote:I'm assuming Gocong will be in the mix at LB.

Tank Carder will tweet about wanting to be in the mix

like_that

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Jan 25, 2013 12:21pm

buckeyes_woowee;1374501 wrote:DE- Taylor
NT- Rubin, Hughes
DE- Winn

OLB- Spencer
ILB- Jackson
ILB- JMJ
OLB- Sheard / Rookie

I think this starting front 7 will be fine. LB depth is the only thing that will scare me. People seem to forget that NFL players are world class athletes. Part of being a great player is adapting and developing.

They are world class athletes playing against other world class athletes. Don't forget that.

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BR1986FB

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Jan 25, 2013 12:32pm

Former Chargers WR & Cleveland native, Chis Chambers chimes in on the Norv Turner hire....

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/former_chargers_wr_chris_chamb.html

Commander of Awesome

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Jan 25, 2013 12:51pm

Brent Sobleski ‏@brentsobleski Horton said 34. Again, projected: DE - Taylor, NT - Rubin, DE - Winn/Rucker, Jack - Sheard, Buck - JMJ - Mike - DQwell, Will - No. 6 pick

BR can you explain this to S&L?

SportsAndLady

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Jan 25, 2013 1:29pm

You don't want BR explaining it, it would most likely be wrong.

se-alum

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Jan 25, 2013 1:30pm

Is Robertson gone? I thought he played very well last year.

Commander of Awesome

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Jan 25, 2013 1:32pm

SportsAndLady;1374619 wrote:You don't want BR explaining it, it would most likely be wrong.

:rolleyes:

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buckeyes_woowee

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Jan 25, 2013 3:36pm

like_that;1374578 wrote:They are world class athletes playing against other world class athletes. Don't forget that.

I understand that. My point is that most players can fit in multiple schemes.

Crimson streak

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Jan 25, 2013 4:22pm

I actually think we have a better personnel for the 3-4 then the 4-3. Taylor and Winn are more suited for the 3-4 and rubin can move to his natural position at NT. the best part is there is a huge need for an pass rushing olb, this year happens to have big time pass rushing olb's in this draft in mingo, and jones. 1 should be there at 6. You also need a mlb that is a tackling machine and we have that in d jack. This biggest question mark will be how Sheard adjusts.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Jan 25, 2013 5:25pm

Crimson streak;1374799 wrote:I actually think we have a better personnel for the 3-4 then the 4-3.

hahahahahahaha No.

wes_mantooth

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Jan 25, 2013 6:11pm

Chris fedor out at knr.....so happy

Mulva

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Jan 25, 2013 6:20pm

BR1986FB;1374429 wrote:Right now, my main "wishlist" (assuming they make the market) would be Jarius Byrd (S-Bills) and Andy Levitre (G-Bills).

There's no chance Byrd gets away. Franchise tag for a safety is going to be under $7 mil even if they don't work out an extension.

Unfortunate because he would be #1 on my wish list.

Crimson streak

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Jan 25, 2013 6:31pm

CLEconomically Speaking;1374819 wrote:hahahahahahaha No.

Actually our d line and lb's fit the 3-4 more than the 4-3 outside of Sheard.

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zach24oz

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Jan 25, 2013 9:22pm

I believe JMJ played OLB when he was at Nevada if I'm not mistaken...DQ and Rubin already have experience in the 3-4 as do Haden and Ward. Just need Phil and Sheard to get it...But I think the transition will be better than what people think. As mentioned a lot of times already, there are a lot of OLB/DEs in this class so they should be able to get a couple guys. I like Werner, Moore and if they trade back a little bit I like Sam Montgomery out of LSU. And maybe Tyran Matheiu in the 4th or 5th? How early would you take the Honeybadger?

se-alum

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Jan 25, 2013 9:35pm

zach24oz;1374890 wrote:I believe JMJ played OLB when he was at Nevada if I'm not mistaken...DQ and Rubin already have experience in the 3-4 as do Haden and Ward. Just need Phil and Sheard to get it...But I think the transition will be better than what people think. As mentioned a lot of times already, there are a lot of OLB/DEs in this class so they should be able to get a couple guys. I like Werner, Moore and if they trade back a little bit I like Sam Montgomery out of LSU. And maybe Tyran Matheiu in the 4th or 5th? How early would you take the Honeybadger?

I wouldn't take Mathieu at all, and it has nothing to do with his love of weed. He's not good in coverage.

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zach24oz

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Jan 25, 2013 10:49pm

Couldn't be any worse than Buster Skrine...he actually produced when he played at LSU. I'm sure not right away but at some point I think he could be pretty decent in the secondary.

CLEconomically Speaking

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Jan 25, 2013 11:47pm

zach24oz;1374926 wrote:Couldn't be any worse than Buster Skrine...he actually produced when he played at LSU. I'm sure not right away but at some point I think he could be pretty decent in the secondary.

move him to a safety or let him develop into a nickel corner. you could steal him in the 6th round and if he fails.. special teams superstar. it's a gamble worth taking if it's a late enough round.

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Sonofanump

Jan 26, 2013 12:21am

zach24oz;1374890 wrote:And maybe Tyran Matheiu in the 4th or 5th? How early would you take the Honeybadger?

Roster camp invitee.

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BR1986FB

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Jan 26, 2013 7:08am

This seems fair enough...

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/64443/turner-browns-are-being-fair-with-weeden